Thread: Revelations from Patch 4.56

Originally Posted by MrThinker

Just to make sure, you meant Varis each time you wrote 'Gaius' yes?

Yeah... For some reason I got Varis, Gaius and Solus all mixed up in my head.

Names are not my strong point :<

Originally Posted by RaphAlar

Watching threads and posts on the theory it's G'raha Tia, and I think the idea is brilliant...but the question of why doesn't the WoL know his voice bugged me.

It's possible that his crystal corruption has affected his vocal chords and thus changed his voice somewhat.

The other side of it, is that the MSQ at this point doesn't have completion of the Crystal Tower raid storyline as canon. So not everyone has met G'raha Tia before this point.

I'd say a good reason for both not recognizing his voice if he is G'raha and why our character doesn't seem to quite get what they need to do when they wake up can be chalked up to how disorienting and/or dream-like a state they were in at the time, even more so compared to how the times initiated by Hydaelyn are. Our character HAD just been near-mortally wounded before finally being sucked into a talk with Enigimatic that also still didn't suck them into the First like it seems to have done with the rest.

At a more mundane level... unless he has a really distinctive voice, I don't think it's unreasonable for the WoL to not connect this ominous voice with that of a friend who they didn't know for all that long, and might not have expected to see again.

And as much as he might be visually obvious to us as observers of a story, our character is most likely in no state to recognise him at the time - running on adrenaline, panicked that they were just (and may still be) about to die, pulled into this bewildering place and realising this is the guy who's been snatching all our friends' souls... well, I'm pretty sure I wouldn't be looking at the shape of the guy's face to try to work out whether I recognise him.

On the other hand, once we're safely back in reality with an instruction to seek out the Crystal Tower, our minds might start to turn back to memories of what happened there, and begin to wonder...


But then again, our character can be rather dense at times.

Originally Posted by Iscah

But then again, our character can be rather dense at times.

At the same time, oddly sharp.
Immediately recognizes Gaius based on mask and vague hinting that we've met before.
Quickly joins the dots in final SB Hildibrand questline regarding the sekiseigumi coincounter guy being drug controlled.

msq thoughts :

considering this was supposed to be the finally of SB, leading into ShB and what not, i felt kind of dissapointed. nothing really felt resolved, no loose ends were tied up. the empire still poses a threat, not Zenos is still alive, real Zenos (who only showed up for two cs's post 3.0) is still unresolved, the last msq update left me with countless questions regarding the empire and Ascians that never got answered. for a conclusion to the SB msq it feels rushed, and i'm left wondering if there was supposed to be more msq updates but they forgot/ran out of time.

From the way the alternate worlds have been presented - evolving separately since they split, with different cultures and races - I think it's logically very unlikely that we would encounter duplicate people. That's 12,000 years of every single person in your family tree finding the same partner - implausible to happen once, let alone for a whole group of people, especially when the world they live in is so different to the Source.

I'll be disappointed if we get alternate versions of people - it simply shouldn't happen unless the split was recent and the worlds are mostly identical.