Thread: Revelations from Patch 4.56

Originally Posted by ShadowMeowth

MSQ, replying to Mieck.

It turned out that Emet-Selch, Angel of Truth, is Zalera, the Death Seraph's. This is the Esper of Death, and most importantly, associated with the Zodiac Sign of Gemini, the Twins.

Which would, I suppose, be a good way to get around the one body at a time structure - that Emet-Selch might in fact be two Ascians.

Much to ponder.

I think it's a pity they haven't made the Rising Stones infirmary an actual set piece, at least for cutscenes. Twice now we've had other characters go in to check on the sleeping Scions, while we have to stay outside.

It's one thing to talk about them all lying there comatose, but it would be quite potent to actually see them like that.

It would also make that "waking up after the battle" cutscene a lot stronger. Instead of the bewildered "why am I in Ishgard?" feeling, you wake up and realise you're in the infirmary and can see all the other Scions around you. You were taken, and now you are the only one to have returned.

Originally Posted by Mieck

Which would, I suppose, be a good way to get around the one body at a time structure - that Emet-Selch might in fact be two Ascians.

Much to ponder.

That would be a very interesting way around Solus's slightly-too-fast reincarnation after Varis shot him....

(not spoiler-tagging this because we've wandered off "patch 4.56" spoilers and into loosely-related conjecture.)

Regarding the MSQ.

I'm pretty sure Varis is possessed by Solus. Elidibus asks where Solus is, and it becomes clear that Elidibus doesn't know what he's up to. Then we cut to black and Varis' creepy face.

My guess is that Solus got tired of Varis not committing fully to the war and his 'humanity is so great' grandstanding and decided to just possess Varis and take the choice out of his hands.

I didn't much care for Zenos in 4.0 but I am curious now to see how things go with him trying to 'reclaim what is rightfully his.' He could be an interesting wrench in the gears of the ascians while not being a 'good guy' on our side. Honestly I was expecting him to intervene in our duel with Elidibus in his skin but Estinien got that honor.

I liked Estinien a lot in 3.X but if the're going to have him around IMO they should write him back into the story properly and not just have him be Tuxedo Mask hovering in the background until we need a rescue. I liked what he did in 4.0 because him hunting down the Eyes made sense but him saving us here felt very random IMO.

About the MSQ:

I don't know about Varis being possessed, it would be a bit too easy and convenient. I think he's more likely to be not far from crazy, and the constant tension of Solus on one hand and us on the other hand is enough to push him further and further in madness. With his mind focused on his ideal of Man, race and power... We've seen people ramble about this without being possessed.
So the zoom in on his face and the dark setting is kind of the "inner Varis" for me, the one that is slowly but surely catching up.

So I just got around to doing the new quests today (I was blind in one eye most of yesterday :'( )

So my thoughts on things:

Beast Tribes:

I dunno... Felt kind of meh. How'd whatshisface get his hands on the materia? Why did he need to go after specifically Gyorei (Especially if he wasn't particularly concerned with authenticity)? What's the deal with "Flesh of a mermaid" like you'd be able to tell the difference between a flank of mermaid flesh and a flank of any old fish meat?

To me, the only stand out thing from the whole deal was the fanservice from seeing J'ohlmyn in a bathing suit. ( ͡° ͜ʖ ͡°)

Even the reward at the end felt meh... An emote where you toss gil out? Okay?

MSQ:

Okay, so we learn nothing. We still don't know who the voice actually is. We haven't learned what has happened to the souls of the other scions. We haven't learned literally anything about how we're going to travel to the First. All we've learned is that we ARE going to the First.

Also, another anti-climactic fight with Zenos... One were we fight him but first have to play as crappy level 5 Samurai Hien first, while Lyse heals us and Yugiri gets to use a badass Limit Break. I'll pass over the fact that the actual Zenos fight itself became ultra lame when you had to destroy the 3 swords as that particular phase is super punishing for melee classes (I couldn't beat it on either SAM or WAR, I ended up going on SMN so I could multi-DoT and damage all three while dodging the attacks from Zenos)

But then we beat Zenos. But not really because Ascian magic! Then right at the high point of this anti-climax *Poof* time to have a chat with Mr Clingy who's been kidnapping all of our friends and won't tell us why and merely tells us we should help him for... Reasons.

To then awaken and find that apparently, Elidibenos couldn't stop a single Estinien (Who no longer has the power of Nidhogg's eye to make him as powerful as he once was) from coming in and taking us to safety. You know, when Zenos himself was able to stop most people in their tracks and Elidibius has that body and his extra special Ascian magick.

Also, what happened with Lyse, Hien and Yugiri? There was no mention that THEY were brought to safety after being dunked on by Zenos (And I doubt Estinien came and grabbed all 4 of us...)

*Sigh* I can't wait for the next anti-climactic fight with Zenos that is being implied by Tataru forbidding us to face him alone again /s

Honestly, I think the most interesting part about this whole thing was that one of Zenos' skills was called "Flood of Darkness" which suggests some interesting things if taken at face value.

Oh well... Back to leveling the last of my jobs to 70 before ShB...

Originally Posted by KarstenS

Uhm? What?

I did it again a half hour ago with i370 DRK. Not even close to stress.

Another guy did it with i307 SAM.

I did it easy peasy with a 310 SMN, but was always 1 hit short on WAR/SAM. Possibly might have been able to do it if I had IR available for the phase...

Or I could just swap to an rDPS and not have to worry about the fact that the attacks during the phase push you out of melee range and gap closers have CD's...