Scholar Changes For Better Life

[Grimoire-M]

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This guy gets it.

I don't think you understand the issues fundementally. All I want is for the fairy to no longer be a free roaming entity and to stop taking damage. I want the fairy tool tips to stop saying things are a certain potency when they are not comparatively that potency to my scholar, and I want people to understand that a 300 potency adlo is weaker in counter part to a 700 potency cure 2 which is its equivelent between scholars and white mage making it so people understand scholars arent op in any way. They are fundemently diferent and currently very clunky to play do to the mixed skills that they get from arcanist seeing as physic is the only heal scholar gets from 1 to 30 and the other healers have multiple healing capubilities from these levels and then some from the past 2 expansions.

I'm a SMN main, trust me when I say learn to position and rely on your pet better. I've gotten Carbuncle cleaved multiple times because I forgot to pull it back after M/F charges in O12S and the O11S tank buster way too many times. Why? Bahamut resummons. Learn to place your pet before each battle and Heel it when you want to follow you. The fact that the fairy is an independent entity actually winds up being a massive benefit. Especially in ARR where you can actually get by not casting a single healing spell with proper use of Whispering Dawn and Rouse, and once you get Deploy you get the ability to get double shield value out of your Succor by utilizing her. The only time I ever really have to cast Succor in ARR is when I know back to back AoE is involved in a trial. You can leave people at half health then prep for the next AoE with another Succor in dungeons. Once you have Indom (which is literally level 52) you're set for every single instance afterward. Hell I did a re-level on SCH just to see if it was a gear issue and it wasn't. The only time I had to cast Physick remotely close to the manner you're referring to was during Brayflox, and it wasn't even bad compared to what I had to do on WHM and AST.

Adlo is 600 potency, 300 heal + 300 Shield. Not 300 potency divided into a heal and shield, and that shield portion is doubled on a crit. It's weaker than Cure/Benefic II because it's a shield. It's for mitigation purposes first, throughput second.

[Levy9]

I want people to understand that a 300 potency adlo is weaker in counter part to a 700 potency cure 2 which is its equivelent between scholars and white mage making it so people understand scholars arent op in any way. They are fundemently diferent and currently very clunky to play do to the mixed skills that they get from arcainest seeing as physic is the only heal scholar gets from 1 to 30 and the other healers have multiple healing capubilities from these levels and then some from the past 2 expansions.

To be fair, Adlo is actually 600 potency. 300 cure, 300 shield, putting it in the same ballpark range as Cure II and Benefic II. Part of the reason for the slightly lower base potency is Adlo's crit effect. Crit Adlo doubles the shield effect, so we're looking at a 600 potency shield on top of a 300 potency cure crit. This also allows Adlo to work better in situations where your target may be topped off, but substantial damage is incoming. You get a shield that just about blocks the same amount of damage that a Cure II or Benefic II would have healed.

Adjust your timings accordingly. The potency is there, you just have to cast preemptively instead of reacting.

Edit: ^ what he said.

[Brandedblade]

I had just recently reworked my keybindings to accommodate my fairy while still having the buttons available to other jobs, and it's honestly quite phenomenal how good sch feels to play when you can make a setup that allows you to micro manage your pet.

Placing her properly, for example, allows you to heal the tank when a mechanic forces you to go to Africa to drop a mechanic. Quite frankly if you have an issue with your pet dying it's because you placed her in a spot where a tank buster can cleave her, as that's really the only thing that can damage pets as far as I'm aware of.

Properly placing her to both optimize her uptime and keep her from getting cleaved is one of those many things that makes your gameplay much smoother and more rewarding.

[EaMett]

I'm confused. There's hardly anything clunky about sch. The only clunky thing I can think of is the faerie's reactivity on embrace. Also removing the micromanagement and placement of the faerie is a terrible idea. It's invaluable to be able to place her where you aren't and have her heal/buff/serve as a deploy base.

Now sure, if your co healer is dead and everyone is low health with back to back aoes coming. It's tedious. But how much advantage do we have in exchange? SCH is totally OP on literally everything else. Let the WHM shine in clutch scenarios, god knows they need it.

Anyways, your faerie should be providing a good 50% of your healing, so it's not like we need much of a toolkit in the first place. And what we have is so overkill that 90% of our aetherflow stacks go into energy drain. More healing power really isn't needed.

[Felien]

Sch is the only “S tier” healer in the game, Ast is not bad and Whm is dead.

If you look the reports from savage no other class can beat them in healing or dps when you try hard. Sch is a ogcd god. When youadd Dissipation on your rotation, an ability that should be the last resource become broken because how Aetherflow works now with the lv 68 traits.

Also with this critical hit stat been unbalanced, the Aldo crits can be almost forced in a point that is considered unlucky not get then. Also succor 150% shields is a beast.

Is possible to solo healing o12s as a Sch the full fight. Their biggest weakness is not a problem at all.

[NYCAcimStudent]

No change for you.
SCH is already the best healer by a fair margin in every category that is relevant to FFXIV gameplay. WHM seems to be in the wrong MMO and AST is the confirmed second banana.
If anything, I would love to see a heavy SCH nerf! It is ridiculous when Scholar's "niche" is everything.


P.S. Bitter WHM here!

[Foxkid]

No change for you.
SCH is already the best healer by a fair margin in every category that is relevant to FFXIV gameplay. WHM seems to be in the wrong MMO and AST is the confirmed second banana.
If anything, I would love to see a heavy SCH nerf! It is ridiculous when Scholar's "niche" is everything.


P.S. Bitter WHM here!

"Every niche"? I'd rather have a white mage's regen/medica II (its 2 right??) with me over Eos' WD in heavy damage control situations, especially cause in my experience alone, astrologians are sketchy, FAR sketchier than any whm I've co-healed with (including the ones who just keep dying and make me waste constant mp on them and getting no refreshes or mana shifts from ranged or casters to offset the overdrive).

Also, I feel that groups with sch/whm just end up smoother (defensively speaking) than with sch/ast like so many claim no matter what role I end up playing. Maybe that's just me though.

[Campi]

What i want for sch is:

Broil
Cast 1.5s
Recast 2.5s

Would be much better for clipping :>

P.S. Bitter WHM here!

the biggest Problem of WHM is, that you don't need Cure3. Astros Star + Collevtive are rly good compared with a sch
So a WHM only shines good in bad groups and pf party, when ppl don't know what they do ^^

[Mortex]

You were 6 days early for creating a joke like this. Sch is the best healer by far. Astro can’t fill his spot atm. Almost no one plays Astro/whm, because sch is busted and he had enough quality of life changes and when people say then think fairy isn’t strong it’s a free Regen the entire fight with extra abilities, and they are on a short cd

[technole]

"Every niche"? I'd rather have a white mage's regen/medica II (its 2 right??) with me over Eos' WD in heavy damage control situations, especially cause in my experience alone, astrologians are sketchy, FAR sketchier than any whm I've co-healed with (including the ones who just keep dying and make me waste constant mp on them and getting no refreshes or mana shifts from ranged or casters to offset the overdrive).

Also, I feel that groups with sch/whm just end up smoother (defensively speaking) than with sch/ast like so many claim no matter what role I end up playing. Maybe that's just me though.

It's just you, and that Astro. AST/SCH is the superior tandem, and has been for almost two years now.

Indom is the best oGCD in the game, and Scholars usually make Medica 2 end up in overheal.