Quote Originally Posted by Rowde View Post
It would allow more oGCDs to be placed on the primary bar for one.

I play on PS4 with a controller.

I consider the primary bar to be the 16 actions quickly accessible with either L2 or R2.

16 more actions (8 at a time) can be accessed via Cross Hotbar by holding either L2 then R2 or holding R2 then L2.

Finally 8 more actions (4 at a time) can be accessed via W Cross Hotbar by double tapping then holding either L2 or R2.


While Cross Hotbar is pretty reliable, sometimes there can be derp if I'm already holding L2 or R2 to input an action and I want to weave something in on a cross hotbar, but either I don't let go of the trigger in time (or server doesn't read it...) and I get the wrong crossbar up... W Cross Hotbar is a nightmare in intense situations. The more stuff that is happening, the more likely it seems that my double tap won't be registered. I already put my least used skills there, but about half the times I want to use them in an adequate emergency the bar doesn't appear.


So I for one, would use the new real estate on my primary bar for oGCDs from my crossbar and perhaps some of the emergency abilities from my W Hotbar that I tend to go to first.
Derping and simply pressing the wrong button (or fat fingering) is something that can happen even on a primary hotbar (mfw I accidentally fat finger a song too early >.>), as well as on a Keyboard/Mouse. It’s fairly common with anyone, so I don’t really see it as an adequate defense for consolidation. Not to mention, it still won’t help jobs that cannot be squished into just 16 buttons because they simply don’t have buttons that can be logically consolidated (e.g., the casters, the healers, BRD, MCH).

You can try to better organize your hotbars if you find you have issues getting to important skills. This is how I did mine—the primary bar should be the most frequently used skills, with the first half of the extended cross being skills with second highest frequency (e.g., cooldowns, short-cooldown buffs) and the second half being skills with the least frequency (situational things, long-cooldown abilities, physical ranged LB). My hands tend to default to the R2>L2 hold first, so I’ve made it the “primary” extended cross, with L2>R2 being the secondary one since my hands don’t default to it first (could be because I’m right-handed is why that happens).

Quote Originally Posted by Rowde View Post
At any rate, consolidating the combos would mean I could promote some of my weaves and CDs from the cross hotbar to the primary bar so I could 1) get to the buttons faster and easier and 2) in theory, use them more often since the icons will be more visible to me so I'll know when they come off CD.
For cooldowns I don’t have on my primary bar, I have one of the regular hotbars set up just above my crossbar with them on it so that I can track cooldowns. It allows me to see that they’re coming off cooldown without checking my extended cross or shuffling through hotbars.