5.0 Combat changes: What do you expect?

**DevilsDontFly** · 03-26-2019 03:56 AM

They mentioned the changes were too in-depth to be explained in a short interview, and since we're not getting a new healer because Yoshi wants to further tweak the existing ones I got curious: What are your thoughts?
Not only in regards to healing obviously, but what are you looking forward for them to add? Or remove? Or just overall change?

I personally would like if they redesigned Protect to be a cooldown instead of a "cast one and we're good" kind of spell.
It would also be nice to have a gap closer on the Paladin, or maybe a reworked Shield Lob, to make it bounce between hostile targets to aggro multiple mobs at once.

**Dasya** · 03-26-2019 04:02 AM

I don't expect anything, since I'm supposed to be getting an overhaul as WHM, and there's supposed healing balance changes coming, too. Who knows what's going to happen Make my Lilies useful and I'll be a content kitty.

I would like Shell, though. Much like Protect, it's kind of a staple of the FF series, and we do see it in Eureka.

As for the other classes, I barely touch them. I hit 70 for the job story and that's it.

**wereotter** · 03-26-2019 04:03 AM

Please delete One Ilm Punch

Signed,
Every monk main in the game

**Shurrikhan** · 03-26-2019 06:42 PM

Originally Posted by wereotter

Please delete One Ilm Punch

Signed,
Every monk main in the game

Not this Monk main.

How about having things actually worth stunning, instead, and returning our control over our stance timings as we had (decently enough) in Heavensward via our woven stance-less skills? Or would we just be damned for having even a grain more difficulty and player agency in the game?

**cicatriz313** · 03-26-2019 04:05 AM

It's really hard for me to think of NEW things that could be added to the jobs. I would like them to change trick attack to apply even if the boss moves last second, and for TCJ to be able to be used while moving though.

**Halivel** · 03-26-2019 04:13 AM

Since they going to remove TP there should be a lot of changings it seems. Especially for jobs that were mixed until the 5.0 (Bard, Paladin, Dark Knight, Red Mage...). But I do not really know, what exactly to expect in this shape. Some new system based on MP?
They also will likely rework role and usual skills. For last one it's probably going to be similar with 4.0 when they removed a lot of skills for making their whole amount not too big for hotbars.

**Vaer** · 03-26-2019 04:14 AM

SCH feels like it's going to be pummeled (again). Hopefully they think of something better for WHM. AST has always been a perpetual see saw so who knows, unless they completely redesign it to stand on it's own and not half/half.

Perhaps they'll take some time to keep culling pre-pull optimization. (Aetherflow plz) They killed a lot of it in SB like the super long WAR one by making most abilities unusable outside of combat or extending durations.

And perhaps they'll do something about the overshield LB building if they feel like it.

**Ogulbuk** · 03-26-2019 04:17 AM

I want combos to be consolidated into a single button the way it works now on PvP. I play on a console with a gamepad and its too annoying to have all those buttons on screen (I use macros to manage some but its still too much for the console UI to handle.)

There is zero reason to use combo abilities out of order anyways other than accidentally messing up your click. The game has been about weaving ogcds in between attacks and positioning for a long time anyways.

Edit:
Another thing I would love to see is a bit of re-organization of abilities. Some basics should just be available earlier in the game for progression reasons. Warriors, for instance, should not have to wait until level 60+ to get their gap-closer.

**Ilan** · 03-26-2019 05:44 AM

Originally Posted by Ogulbuk

I want combos to be consolidated into a single button the way it works now on PvP. I play on a console with a gamepad and its too annoying to have all those buttons on screen (I use macros to manage some but its still too much for the console UI to handle.)

There is zero reason to use combo abilities out of order anyways other than accidentally messing up your click. The game has been about weaving ogcds in between attacks and positioning for a long time anyways.

Edit:
Another thing I would love to see is a bit of re-organization of abilities. Some basics should just be available earlier in the game for progression reasons. Warriors, for instance, should not have to wait until level 60+ to get their gap-closer.

Keep that trash system in pvp, thank you. If i wanna play with moba like controlls, i'm gonna play a moba and not an mmorpg.

**DevilsDontFly** · 03-26-2019 05:47 AM

Originally Posted by Ilan

Keep that trash system in pvp, thank you. If i wanna play with moba like controlls, i'm gonna play a moba and not an mmorpg.

ESO? GW2? Far from being trash system.

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