5.0 Combat changes: What do you expect?

**SannaR** · 03-26-2019 10:16 AM

I expect them to fail at balancing the healers and taking everything else whm has and giving it to the other two and leaving them left with just their staff/cane to whack things. Then telling whms to just go play dancer. I expect drk and mch to also get no love and go backwards then where they are now just because they don't seem to know what the heck to do with those jobs. Maybe a rework of some of the job gages in where more of them actually make sense and aren't there to just be there.

**Kusanagi7** · 03-26-2019 10:35 AM

give samurai more utility slash debuff not enough.

**MrKimper** · 03-27-2019 12:49 AM

Originally Posted by Kusanagi7

give samurai more utility slash debuff not enough.

No. We don't need more utility jobs, let SAM do damage, there's already NIN, BRD, RDM, SMN, MCH, DRG and pretty much every other job. Why would you want to change what makes SAM fun? it just needs it's damage increased and a less obnoxious AOE rotation.

Edit: If anything RDM needs more utility maybe a buff to embolden.

**Burningskull** · 03-26-2019 11:38 AM

Since they are removing TP I HOPE that weaonskills will just no longer cost a resource at all. Meany you can AoE to your hearts content and Tanks can use their single target ranged attack, Tomahawk and Shield Lob, without causing them a chunk of TP. And since they are removing TP I think they have already confirmed the TP regen moves are going away.

Moves like Heavy Thrust and Hot Shot I expect to disappear. Especially Heavy Thrust.

Some of the more less used moves like Tether on RDM, the jump back move on BRD, movies like that I think will go away.

I think instead of getting new abilities we will get traits that upgrade old abilities into new ones. Which means while the rotation wont really change at least it'll look new? lol.

I "want" them to remove positionals but who knows on that one. Some people like them some people hate them.

I think they will remove Slashing, Piercing, and Blunt damage and just have Physical and Magical damage. That's HUGE speculation tho.

Maybe they will throw tanks a bone and get rid of vit accessories and have them share Maiming accessories? (Very doubtful tho.)

**van_arn** · 03-26-2019 11:39 AM

I expect them to have used samurai and rdm as a sort of test to see if more straightforward rotations and less emphasis on positioning would be accepted by the playerbase. If this is the case, then dragoon, mechanist, and monk (in particular) will experience some streamlining.

I expect the lack of a new healer to signify Square doesn't know where to go with the healers they already have in place, especially white mage. We'll see a rebalancing of healers, perhaps with another attempt made at giving each of them a unique flavor.

I expect them to give up on role actions entirely; unlocking all of them mid-stormblood is an admission of failure. Perhaps this functionality will be the source of "new" abilities in Shadowbringers.

I expect a strong reduction of the skillgap on every job, mostly by streamlining rotations and combining buttons, due in part to the average player's inability to do much more than put their pants on in the morning.

I don't want my expectations to be met.

**hynaku** · 03-26-2019 11:40 AM

For them to bring back turn base combat.

**Vahlnir** · 03-26-2019 01:01 PM

I tend to keep my expectations reasonably low when it comes to SE and this game's development because I have been burned in the past. So I guess I don't expect a whole lot but certainly hope for the best when it comes to making jobs play smoothly.

**Reiryuu** · 03-26-2019 01:04 PM

I haven't gone through all 8 pages, so I don't know if I'm the only pessimist in the thread, but I expect a huge $***storm probably even bigger than the one white mages did at the beginning of 4.0 this time around. I could be wrong, and if I am, great... but... something in my gut is really predicting $*** hits the fan. Will it be healers? Tanks or some other classes or a combination thereof? I don't know... but... yeah... I am expecting a lot of blowback in May.

**kidalutz** · 03-26-2019 01:30 PM

I'm just worried the lack of tp and the reliance on mp for everything is gonna screw people hard.

I suspect it'll be dark buttons all around.

**Gihwezi** · 03-26-2019 01:39 PM

Originally Posted by kidalutz

I'm just worried the lack of tp and the reliance on mp for everything is gonna screw people hard.

I suspect it'll be dark buttons all around.

Yeah this is probably one of my biggest worries too. I'm sort of scared of what this means for bard in particular, especially where foes is concerned.

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