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    whiskeybravo's Avatar
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    Quote Originally Posted by Lacan View Post
    Yea, more options sure are terrible.
    You got more options. You got a completely new race that nobody even knew was on the table. You would've rather had just female Viera?

    Quote Originally Posted by Atreyu View Post
    Man, you people must be great at parties.
    Seriously though, what do you gain by restricting the choices of others?
    And what if creating the missing genders restricts players from content the devs could've worked on, had they not been pestered by an ungrateful online community?
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    Quote Originally Posted by whiskeybravo View Post
    And what if creating the missing genders restricts players from content the devs could've worked on, had they not been pestered by an ungrateful online community?
    You could say that about the 2 races being added to begin with though. We didn't need new races at all. They're just cosmetic at the end of the day and they still added them over doing something else. I see no reason for them to not just finish out the races since they know people want them.

    God forbid they take a break from working on 5.0 eureka to do something else. :v
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    Quote Originally Posted by Lacan View Post
    You could say that about the 2 races being added to begin with though. We didn't need new races at all. They're just cosmetic at the end of the day and they still added them over doing something else. I see no reason for them to not just finish out the races since they know people want them.

    God forbid they take a break from working on 5.0 eureka to do something else. :v
    You done need two genders to play as, they're just cosmetic at the end of the day.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Canadane View Post
    You done need two genders to play as, they're just cosmetic at the end of the day.
    I never said they were needed, just that people want them.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Lacan View Post
    I see no reason for them to not just finish out the races since they know people want them.
    Because you have no scope on how much work it takes to do it. If you actually had to do the work you would see it. And it's not a one time cost that's done once the expansion is launched, every patch, every time there's new gear, there's extra work.

    Quote Originally Posted by Lacan View Post
    God forbid they take a break from working on 5.0 eureka to do something else. :v
    Regular Eureka was already delayed. the next one doesn't need more reason to be delayed, especially at the cost of something so cosmetic.
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    While we're at it lets start gender locking jobs too. Gunblade will now be male only and Dancer female only. Brilliant.
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    While I am personally not in agreement with the whole gender-lock debacle, I do understand that there are currently more important things to be focused on. I would not mind waiting until more important content is worked on before male Viera or female Hrothgar are implemented, if they even decide to go that route. Let's all remember that although we may want something, it doesn't mean we should expect it to be delivered immediately. On the flip side, it's entirely understandable for people to be upset and voice their concerns IF they do it in a polite and respectable manner.

    Other people have different areas they allot their importance to. Let's not be selfish and say one is not important at all, whether you're on the unlocking side or not. At the end of the day, we are a community that share mutual enjoyment of the game. Let's not tear each other's heads off over something like this.
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    While I'm not a fan of the decision they made, I understand why they made it and I accept it. (Albeit I still don't lose hope that male Viera might appear in a future expansion, haha).
    I think people have gone a bit far with their rage.
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    Quote Originally Posted by whiskeybravo View Post
    Just because someone supports a post doesn't mean they themselves are going to change to that particular race.



    BAHAHAHAHAHA. Typical response from someone unable to formulate a substantive argument.

    I'm self-centered because I don't have a problem with the developer's design choice?

    I'm self-centered because I am not demanding the developers cater to my specific wants?

    It's OK, you can take a look in the mirror.
    Ok, I’ll bite, mr troll. You are selfish because you want others’ feedback to be quashed. You are absolutely inconsiderate. You also have no idea what actual argumentation is and it’s rather sad, but typical of internet trolls. All you can do is bloviate with strawmen and rhetorical questions, indicating an inability to actually formulate an argument. But then again, projection is Troll 101, so you’re familiar with that.

    In short, you’re toxic but then I suppose the internet is full of your kind and this is no exception. The whole “Bahahhahaha look at my faux bravado” thing is tired and pathetic, as are your antics.

    Respond with your usual troll antics, I shan’t bother to respond, it’s not worth my time reading, and I’ve seen it all before anyway. It’s usually something like “omg you refuse to engage my troll behaviour so I WIN!” The sad thing is you see things in such a binary fashion, winning or losing. The day you mature and actually see beyond the end of your nose is the day that you might be worth paying attention to. But I doubt that day will come anytime soon. Enjoy your “last word”, I suppose you get some sort of fulfilment out of that.

    On a more positive note, I have noticed far less trolls on this place than usual, and I’ve delved deep into reddit and other places.

    Edit: I found the ignore function! Thank goodness.
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    Last edited by manickitty; 03-27-2019 at 04:11 AM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by manickitty View Post
    You are selfish because you want others’ feedback to be quashed.
    Not really. I disagreed with the notion that developmental resources played a part in their decision, due to the fact they did obviously have enough resources for 2 genders of a different race. I disagreed with the notion that Lore is irrelevant in their decision making process, it very obviously is intrinsic to their whole story creation process, without which what would we even be playing? I simply pointed out the hypocrisy of these opinions.

    What you are attempting to describe is some authoritarian notion that no one else should be able to give feedback if it doesn't align with the facts as presented, or much less of my own opinion. Yet you yourself are displaying such authoritarianism as a result - "How DARE he make a statement based in facts, TROLL! Don't listen to him!"

    You are absolutely inconsiderate. You also have no idea what actual argumentation is and it’s rather sad, but typical of internet trolls. All you can do is bloviate with strawmen and rhetorical questions, indicating an inability to actually formulate an argument. But then again, projection is Troll 101, so you’re familiar with that.
    I think we can let the text speak for itself.

    In short, you’re toxic but then I suppose the internet is full of your kind and this is no exception. The whole “Bahahhahaha look at my faux bravado” thing is tired and pathetic, as are your antics.
    In short, you still haven't enunciated any reasonable retort to my statements. Just whatever strawman your imagination could create of my possible personality or beliefs.

    Respond with your usual troll antics, I shan’t bother to respond, it’s not worth my time reading, and I’ve seen it all before anyway. It’s usually something like “omg you refuse to engage my troll behaviour so I WIN!” The sad thing is you see things in such a binary fashion, winning or losing. The day you mature and actually see beyond the end of your nose is the day that you might be worth paying attention to. But I doubt that day will come anytime soon. Enjoy your “last word”, I suppose you get some sort of fulfilment out of that.
    Again, backing out of the conversation because you know you don't have any logical argument to stand on.
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