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    Quote Originally Posted by indira View Post
    SE needs to get ride of these one job partys for kills, they need to make a stragty base content vs tp/mp burn on everything in the game, they fix mrd's spam but now we thm which will probly be all BLM after 1.21.
    SE not fix the content just for ARC party , Players do.
    Players are the one who fix the job in party ,
    They're the one who judge on another players.

    Their is a prove that not only ARC party can defeat moogle.
    I believe there're many thread about pgl party can also defeat moogle.

    Still , Players themselves always choose the easiest way to do things.
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    They aren't going to put alot of effort into a version of FFXIV that for all intents and purposes, is dead in the water. Wait till 2.0 (tm) or an expansion.

    Most of those fights in FFXI had the same tedious drop rate, if not worse. Big difference was that you actually wanted the loot so you kept going. Here in FFXIV most loot drops you could care less about.

    Just like everything else the more you do the fight the more efficient/easier it becomes. Challenge is pretty much only there for the learning curve, after that it's farmville. The only real test is how bad/good your learning curve is until it gets to that point.

    This game needs some form of tiered progression vs. just doing 1 boss fight for questionable upgrades. Till then it's a snoozefest.
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    Last edited by Madruk; 03-04-2012 at 02:52 PM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Madruk View Post
    They aren't going to put alot of effort into a version of FFXIV that for all intents and purposes, is dead in the water. Wait till 2.0 (tm) or an expansion.

    Most of those fights in FFXI had the same tedious drop rate, if not worse. Big difference was that you actually wanted the loot so you kept going. Here in FFXIV most loot drops you could care less about.

    Just like everything else the more you do the fight the more efficient/easier it becomes. Challenge is pretty much only there for the learning curve, after that it's farmville. The only real test is how bad/good your learning curve is until it gets to that point.

    This game needs some form of tiered progression vs. just doing 1 boss fight for questionable upgrades. Till then it's a snoozefest.
    See this where you are wrong about XI Boss fight's. If i took my ls and we fought Byakko 8 times and won 8 times I bet you at least 15 people go home with something. Now you can do Ifrit 15 times and come out with nothing
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    Quote Originally Posted by Firon View Post
    See this where you are wrong about XI Boss fight's. If i took my ls and we fought Byakko 8 times and won 8 times I bet you at least 15 people go home with something. Now you can do Ifrit 15 times and come out with nothing
    It's not fair to compare it that way.

    Byakko requires you to farm pop items that is way more annoying and on timer while fighting with the whole server, of course they need to make the drop rate higher and more stuff to provides for everyone that helps out on farming the pop item.

    You can solo tapers/keystones easily. at least 10-15 primals/hour pop solo.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Chardrizard View Post
    It's not fair to compare it that way.

    Byakko requires you to farm pop items that is way more annoying and on timer while fighting with the whole server, of course they need to make the drop rate higher and more stuff to provides for everyone that helps out on farming the pop item.

    You can solo tapers/keystones easily. at least 10-15 primals/hour pop solo.
    Yet you can go 30 kills w/o a single item on ifrit, don't matter how you get the items to pop them the whole point is at the end of the day more ppl went home happy in xi compared to the dumb ass loot system we have now. I killed ifrit over 100 times I have 5 thm weps and a bow to show for my hard work
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    Quote Originally Posted by Firon View Post
    Yet you can go 30 kills w/o a single item on ifrit, don't matter how you get the items to pop them the whole point is at the end of the day more ppl went home happy in xi compared to the dumb ass loot system we have now. I killed ifrit over 100 times I have 5 thm weps and a bow to show for my hard work
    Gath did ifrit around the same amount of times and Gath has a bunch of dark matter to show for it....no weapons yet ; ;

    Gath's 1 gil is worth more than your 1 gil.
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    Gath's 1 gil may be worth more than your 1 gil but it still cant buy an Ifrit wpn
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    WHY THE FUCK DID YOU BUMP THIS?
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    Thal's Balls! These forums are hot enough to melt an ice goddess.

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    Gath is Online ^.^
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    awwwww bad!
    I thought famous Gath is back! bad!!
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