Gath wonders....

[fusional]

The Moogle and Ifrit fights are really well done when you think about it, they require complete knowledge of positioning and surroundings, and constant adjustments and reactions to events. What more do you want?

oh, you know. something that takes even the best guilds in the world more than a day or two to figure out. something that takes the best guilds in the world weeks, even months to finish. something like Sunwell (twins anyone?), or certain ulduar hard modes (here's looking at you Alone in the Darkness yogg 25)

now, i don't expect something that hard in *this* version of the game. but 2.0 needs it. *needs* it. but until then it would be nice if we could at least get something like dynamis/limbus. give us something at least comparable to proto-ultima in difficulty (which was lawler easy anyway, but still harder than batraal or moogle or ifrit)

[Buddhsie]

FatHouseCat is right, as another person who is in a decent linkshell expecting a challenge, they can also see the necessity for difficult content.

[Agoven]

Your whining is priceless...FOR A GOOD LAUGH.

[fusional]

FFXI had some fights that were difficult and interesting... until people realized they could be zerged. then the entire game became a joke.

i remember getting server first Bahamut V.2 after hours and hours and hours and days and hours of farming and wipes. i remember how amazing it felt to finally get the strategy down and execute for the kill. i remember how boss i felt getting the second bahamut's mask on the server (behind our LS leader). i remember how elite we felt having it on farm for weeks before other linkshells started to catch up.

and then i remember feeling completely crestfallen when the zerg strat came out and suddenly every single LS on the server that wasn't *completely* awful could fly through it without having ever experienced the difficulty or strategy we did. and i felt robbed and dirty and disgusted.

and pretty much every other 'challenging' fight followed suit.

anyway, the point of this post is- we haven't even seen anything as difficult as bahamut V.2 in this game yet (and certainly not anything even REMOTELY CLOSE to as difficult as SSC/TK/BT or ulduar hard modes), and it's tough to feel sad about people stacking classes and zerging ifrit/moogle when they were never hard and never required much strategy in the first place.

if this continues, and if square continues to give everyone content *except* for the hardcore players who are desperate for a real challenge- 2.0 will fail, period.

[Jinko]

I would agree that making boss encounters more random would definitely help in making them more difficult I'm all for that.

We are getting hard mode content in 2.0 aren't' we which should give elite players the content they have been craving for.

Hopefully SE will work with players through the test servers when they get them running to fine tune content.

[Gath]

I would agree that making boss encounters more random would definitely help in making them more difficult I'm all for that.

We are getting hard mode content in 2.0 aren't' we which should give elite players the content they have been craving for.

Hopefully SE will work with players through the test servers when they get them running to fine tune content.

Yeah, it would definitely help a lot.

Would also open up to players releasing strat vids as soon as they came out, but then again, if it's hard enough to where skilled players can really only do it then it'll be fine.

Gath's 1 gil is worth more than your 1 gil.

[ejiboo]

are we cereal getting more shit like this? the current drop system is in place in order to draw out content. come on people, you knew this! i understand people have to qq and whine but lets at least make them intelligent squeals for attention! but really though, we know the game is in an elongated beta once again-it basically hasn't even begun.

personally i like the ifrit fight better than moogle (if i'm on arc), any other dd makes moogle pretty fun and rage inducing when you miss them combos! moogle is so monotonous and stale on arc.

go into darkhold with 3 and you'll also have a great time.

i really like stufoo's post; yeah, i read that.

all of your insatiable needs will soon be sated...and by soon i mean in a year!

[fusional]

moogle is so monotonous and stale on arc.

not if you're pushing 80+ dps, it isn't

[Gath]

not if you're pushing 80+ dps, it isn't

Yeah, he can go down super quick if you have a bunch of ARC with this.

Gath's 1 gil is worth more than your 1 gil.

[indira]

Yeah, he can go down super quick if you have a bunch of ARC with this.

SE needs to get ride of these one job partys for kills, they need to make a stragty base content vs tp/mp burn on everything in the game, they fix mrd's spam but now we thm which will probly be all BLM after 1.21.