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    Yoshida-san elaborated a bit saying that it's "very convenient" and we would somehow "super-charge the Echo" and avoid the need to die. Though I'd be surprised to find Elidibus outright lied. Don't get me wrong, I've believed since his first cutscene that he was a snake, but the assumption that he has never outright lied and merely speaks in vague double-meanings with selective omissions that lead you to make the assumptions he wants you to has been my guiding principle for analyzing his character. Finding out he lied would send me back to square one on him which is... <shudders> [beat] <shudders harder>
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    given hes probably not on the best of terms with crystal-arm he may still have been halftruthing it by saying its the only way he has available to them, also possible the wods jumped at the first offer out of desperation and elidibus certainly isnt going to just offer up an alternative when you already said yes to what he wants
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    Quote Originally Posted by Johaandr View Post
    2. Are we going to visit other worlds?(2nd,3rd etc)
    I hope so. And I hope one of them is named Vana'diel.
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    I used to be an adventurer, but then my ping increased.

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    That does not explain how Thancred manages to get there too (as he's shown running with Reborn!Minfilia under Bizzaro!Limsa Lominsa Eulmore in the trailer after all, meaning he is definetely going to the First with us - the develiopment team confirmed long ago that Thancred, along with all the Archons except Krile do not have the Echo at all, so that's either a plot oversight or something else allows him to crossover....).

    Hmmmm.....
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    Aaaaannnd now I just had a mental image of Lahabrea walking into a store called Bodies R Us and trying on different humans.... >.<

    Lahabrea: hn too tall... tooo short.... Juuuuuust right.
    Venat was right.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Enkidoh View Post
    That does not explain how Thancred manages to get there too (as he's shown running with Reborn!Minfilia under Bizzaro!Limsa Lominsa Eulmore in the trailer after all, meaning he is definetely going to the First with us - the develiopment team confirmed long ago that Thancred, along with all the Archons except Krile do not have the Echo at all, so that's either a plot oversight or something else allows him to crossover....).

    Hmmmm.....
    I'd say our Echo is either the conductor for the travel, e.g. the tool with which we "throw wide open" the gate to the other dimension. Or, since Thancred is among those who got pulled there in spirit (wasn't he on of the, if not the, first?), it might be a manifestation of his soul or something? I don't know, I personally tend to the former tbh. Also, don't forget that last time we traveled to a shard (the 13th/World of Darkness), Nero also got there through the rift, so it's possible for someone without the ability to manipulate aether to travel to a shard if somebody else opens the way for them. We will have to wait and see on that, maybe we will get the answer as soon as tomorrow!
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    Quote Originally Posted by Yuyuka3 View Post
    I'd say our Echo is either the conductor for the travel, e.g. the tool with which we "throw wide open" the gate to the other dimension. Or, since Thancred is among those who got pulled there in spirit (wasn't he on of the, if not the, first?), it might be a manifestation of his soul or something? I don't know, I personally tend to the former tbh. Also, don't forget that last time we traveled to a shard (the 13th/World of Darkness), Nero also got there through the rift, so it's possible for someone without the ability to manipulate aether to travel to a shard if somebody else opens the way for them. We will have to wait and see on that, maybe we will get the answer as soon as tomorrow!
    I'd say your first idea could be a possibility. As for the Scions' souls physically manifesting.... I'm more inclined to think that Mr. Mysterious-Voice-Crystal-Arm-Who-Is-Definitely-Not-G'raha-Tia-Unless-It-Is may or may not have developed clone bodies for the Scions to inhabit in a similar fashion to how Doga and Unei said they passed their souls on to their clones. As for us? Well, if we are able to simply 'teleport' between worlds without having to directly use the Crystal Tower, then I think it is likely that we are in our original bodies, and its the Super-charged-Echo that allows us to defy the barriers between worlds.
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    Quote Originally Posted by MrThinker View Post
    I'd say your first idea could be a possibility. As for the Scions' souls physically manifesting.... I'm more inclined to think that Mr. Mysterious-Voice-Crystal-Arm-Who-Is-Definitely-Not-G'raha-Tia-Unless-It-Is may or may not have developed clone bodies for the Scions to inhabit in a similar fashion to how Doga and Unei said they passed their souls on to their clones. As for us? Well, if we are able to simply 'teleport' between worlds without having to directly use the Crystal Tower, then I think it is likely that we are in our original bodies, and its the Super-charged-Echo that allows us to defy the barriers between worlds.
    True, I didn't think about the possibility of clone bodies... that would make a lot of sense, considering where our hooded friend who is not G'raha, no, no, is...
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    I mean it could also be that all the 'Silver Tear lakes' of the Shards and Source are actually connected, and that was 'the real secret' of the lake this entire time (and why Midgardsormr was defending it). Meaning we just throw ourselves into the lake to travel between worlds and why Lakeland is the first area of the First we arrive in (I'm just spit-balling this idea).

    Either way, in just about 11 hrs from now, we should get our answers.
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    Besides all the lore and stuff. I still stand on wanting stuff to be on hydealyn honestly.
    Like example if we finish ShB i assume that the first world will still be a accessable but, will there be stuff to do as you normally would on Hydealyn?? perhaps they add new gran company, retainer etc. And if we can teleport DIRECTLY theu teleport menu as if we can teleport from Limsa to kugane then... i would find it odd aswell. I hope you have to walk to crystal tower inorder to let you visit first world and use aether teleport from there on to visit first world towns, and not Limsa to Crystarium.

    Now im bit out of topic...

    Im kinda getting mixed feelings about this whole thing. I just have to wait for this summer to come and get over it, and hopefully get some answear out of it.
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