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    Player RitsukoSonoda's Avatar
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    Quote Originally Posted by NessaWyvern View Post
    Because forward planning if very important in games, especially MMOs. They surely would have known that after Au Ra they would still be clamouring for Viera (especially after concept art), and other races. Especially with one of their main MMO competitors releasing other races. They would have had ample time to get the footwear, headwear, etc. Sorted out if they started earlier.
    Except if they were given a hard no by someone higher up after Au Ra stating there wouldn't be any more playable races added in the future, there wouldn't have been any reason to work on it after that point from a professional standpoint. It's entirely possible that the OK to add these 2 new races came completely unexpectedly at a time that didn't leave much time to get the materials made for the fan fest reveals.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Doozer View Post
    Maybe it's for the best that they didn't both have two gender options. The Hrothgar females would be female Midlanders with fur, and the male Viera would be male Au Ra/Highlanders/whatever with bunny ears.
    But now we have female midlanders with bunny ears and and male Roe's with fur.

    I still feel two races was a big mistake on their part. The community would have been fine with one properly done race. We didn't even get any new race for Stormblood and that was fine. They knew genderlock would have caused uproar. What made them decide on this over-ambitious 2-race project when they only had the resources for one race and had to settle for 2 halves?

    They've also wasted a concept (Hrothgar) that they could have held in the bag for the expansion after. Now they'll have to think of something entirely new again.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Valkyrie_Lenneth View Post
    Ahh yes, this arguement. Because the people that design and work on jobs are the same as the people who design and work on races/character modeling and gear.

    Thanks for your insight.
    Then they should have balanced healers....
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    Quote Originally Posted by Liam_Harper View Post
    But now we have female midlanders with bunny ears and and male Roe's with fur.

    I still feel two races was a big mistake on their part. The community would have been fine with one properly done race. We didn't even get any new race for Stormblood and that was fine. They knew genderlock would have caused uproar. What made them decide on this over-ambitious 2-race project when they only had the resources for one race and had to settle for 2 halves?

    They've also wasted a concept (Hrothgar) that they could have held in the bag for the expansion after. Now they'll have to think of something entirely new again.
    They have repeated many times we are not getting anymore races. We will be extremely lucky if we even see these both completed.
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    So male Hrothgar never replaced male Viera, but instead female Viera replaced female Hrothgar? For some reason there are not many anti-genderlock activists saying they would have preferred to give up female Viera to get a full Hrothgar race.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Reinha View Post
    So male Hrothgar never replaced male Viera, but instead female Viera replaced female Hrothgar? For some reason there are not many anti-genderlock activists saying they would have preferred to give up female Viera to get a full Hrothgar race.
    Did you see any, 'We want Hrothgar' forum threads over the past two years?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ayer2015 View Post
    Did you see any, 'We want Hrothgar' forum threads over the past two years?
    There have been quite a few "We want a beastly race threads" so, yes, yes I have.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ayer2015 View Post
    Did you see any, 'We want Hrothgar' forum threads over the past two years?
    Exactly, genderlocks were never an issue for most people. It's just a convenient cause to advocate for when angling to get male Vieras. If people were seriously against the principle of genderlocking then they would prefer a full Hrothgar race over what we got.

    "We want a beastly race" has actually been a topic of conversation over the past two years. I have participated in those threads. I am pleasantly surprised our voices were heard considering the amount of opposition in the past and now.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Reinha View Post
    Exactly, genderlocks were never an issue for most people. It's just a convenient cause to advocate for when angling to get male Vieras. If people were seriously against the principle of genderlocking then they would prefer a full Hrothgar race over what we got.
    my thoughts exactly
    just delete hrothgar and give us male viera
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    Quote Originally Posted by Binahel View Post
    this means something even WORST in itself: the fact that they lack time and people to work on the game development and they scrap out thingsfor this reason.

    I don't know about you, but for me this information it's evern worst, it means this games has a doom clock on it.
    This...This was like totally the case since it was annnounced thata lot of the proffits from FF14 were being siphoned to new se IPs and remakes, and most likely the Xenogears stuff too.and more so since FF14 1.0 destroyed SE financially.

    Quote Originally Posted by Taybat View Post
    Also I'm scared two big mmo's just had major layoffs. I'm worried for the devs at ffxiv
    All like 25 of them...

    Quote Originally Posted by programcanaan View Post
    There's always a deadline they have to meet, expectations square sets for the devs. It's standard for any project. Compromises are always being made.
    For example: Diablo three was originally going to have ladderrs

    Quote Originally Posted by username1234 View Post
    How does this change anything? All this explains is why the hrothgar models look so rushed and lazy. They still chose to develop a race only 1% of the playerbase will play over male viera.
    Um, basically. theyre going to like include FF10's story elements, or like at least a few features
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