Give us girly boys and manly women! Bigger issues than bunny boys?

[Mayon]

I know that many people are throwing around wanting male Viera. I can't say that I'm not disappointed. However I feel that the issue is quite a bit deeper than simply wanting bunny boys and not wanting an over masculine race from left field that looks like someone slapped a bad Thundercat texture map on a Roe.

At a base level, we use our characters as a form or self expression. The reason why you have such a backlash at this moment is from the perception of people that cannot express themselves through a media that they love, which is this game. We do this content. We get our characters all this cool gear. We fight crazy battles and hang out with our friends with characters that have a little bit of us in them.

Guys like to be bunnies too. Girls like to be tough and buff. Sometimes, we just want to bounce to an alt to feel this for a little while, just to get out of our own skin and relax away from the rest of the world. This is why people get so passionate about male Viera.

Gender locking these two races basically says, in a day and age when transgender rights and gender is such a hotly debated topic, that males and females can't be x thing in this fantasy world that they have enjoyed and invested countless amounts of money into for x amount of years.

This even goes for clothes. Genderlocking anything at this point is potentially a damaging thing. Why does it still happen? Why are things still segregated by sexual characteristics? Is it so wrong for a man to display something feminine? A female something masculine? Aren't we moving beyond this binary way of thinking by now?

The message that genderlocking these races is sending to players is toxic and potentially anti LGBTQ even though it is not intentional. Even with lore that restricts a gender, we have both genders of all races in this game. It would be better to hold back on introducing a new race at launch to be able to introduce it with no gender locks then to gender lock the races and then decide on something later.

For some players. Including myself, the dysphoria of seeing a hyper masculine race and an overly sexual-looking female race with no counter balances really hurts and makes me feel uncomfortable. Give us some girly boys and some really buff, man-women. Counter balance these races. Give us more options to express ourselves. Please don't limit us.

[ShinShimon]

But we already have female roegadyn and male miqo'te.

[Dalmacus]

But we already have female roegadyn and male miqo'te.

You forgot female Highlander.

[UserHere]

Omg lol. The gender locking is much more likely to be about resource management than some rebuke of where society is heading with gender nonconformity. Asian countries like Japan and Korea have much more androgynous or effeminate males in pop culture. The term Bishōnen comes to mind. I can remember the gaming culture in the west complaining about the main characters in Japanese games always being pretty boys etc etc a decade and a half ago. Now we are accusing them of being non inclusive because we cant have bunny boys.

Let's just take a step back for a second. This could have simply been an either or decision from a development standpoint. With how much work they say adding a race is. So maybe the choice was 1 race 2 genders like in HW with the Au'ra, or something different like 2 races 1 gender. And the devs decided on the latter. Was it the right decision? Maybe. Was it going to upset some? Sure.

I know as much as the next layman but I think this is a much more plausible explanation than calling SE lazy, or non inclusive. Maybe in 6.0 they will have the dev time to unlock the races.

TLDR: I'm sure SE wishes they could make everything for everybody, but time and resources are finite.

[Nuna]

If you're feeling dysphoria due to this game then please go to therapy. Please op, there is something seriously wrong.

[SpiritMuse]

But we already have female roegadyn and male miqo'te.

We also already have female Miqo'te, female dragon Miqo'te, male Roegadyn, and male Highlanders.

[Elyssia]

We also already have female Miqo'te, female dragon Miqo'te, male Roegadyn, and male Highlanders.

And ? Like it or not, there will always be a majority of people that want a male to be a male and not a girly male, and a woman to be a woman and not a man woman. There is already multiple race for strong looking woman and girly looking boy.

[Aliha]

We also already do have girly boys. They're just lalafell

[Eldevern]

Well, on the other hand, NA people should understand that their political gender matters sound like a whim in some other parts of the world. It is not because a little part of activists have decided it is a world matter it really is.

What will happen when minority in a minority will starts to rise (we already see that with the last polemic against Will Smith who wouldn't be black enough)?

People should understand they will not solve the problem like this, it is all the opposite : they will even make rise a grudge against them while they want to become banal. They were pretty much more banal when I was younger and they were more pleasant too. Now they kinda sound hysterical.

[Elyssia]

Well, on the other hand, NA people should understand that their political gender matters sound like a whim in some other parts of the world. It is not because a little part of activists have decided it is a world matter it really is.

What will happen when minority in a minority will starts to rise (we already see that with the last polemic against Will Smith who wouldn't be black enough)?

People should understand they will not solve the problem like this, it is all the opposite : they will even make rise a grudge against them while they want to become banal. They were pretty much more banal when I was younger and more pleasant too. Now they kinda sound hysterical.

I wouldnt have say better.