Dear SE, I am a Healer

[Aramina]

It's quite the opposite I think. Raiders in general won't consider slight imbalance as game breaking. The ones that do are those speed runners and log padders, which is just a small part of the raiders.

And I don't think SE should rework the jobs or limit their creativity on creating new jobs based on how the jobs might be 5% less effective than some others in speed runs.

Also that 5 or 10% difference mostly applied in case when the jobs are played with high skilled players in specific party composition. Most statics or pugs will have different skills and party comp where this difference is even more insignificant.

You said what I was trying to say better than I said it. Lol.

[Reiryuu]

not sure why you are taking this personal, i am not disagreeing that they could do whatever, just saying if they had dancer who is a healer, in this game, their dps will be trash. Which is fine if dps doesnt matter to you.

Quite simply, I am tired of people saying that Dancer could not have been a healer and implying that healers shouldn't get any other job due to "limitations" on remaining jobs. It's a stupid argument. If the dev team wants to make a new healer, they can. I feel people are just saying F*** healers they should never get anything and that makes me really angry. And I'm already angry at the dev team because they have tried to force their "vision" into healer balance for so long and yet, they seem to not be taking healer balance seriously. I'm worried for all healer jobs at the moment come May. And I was really hoping on a healer job (dancer or not) this expansion.

And while my posts do sound angry, admittedly, I'm more trying to emphasize points that I feel people are missing because they keep making the same argument-- like your comment on hybrids which I responded to that it doesn't need to be a hybrid, and yet you bring up hybrids again in the very next response and imply that dancer would have to be one. And you seeming to argue that because dancer was decided to be an RDPS it couldn't have been a healer. If that was not your intention, I apologize for the mistake, but again while I am angry at certain people on the forums, I am underlining and bolding for emphasis rather than to evoke the idea of screaming at people. Isn't that what CAPS LOCK is for? =p

Also to the person who said puppetmasters were not liked... maybe for raiding sure-- I never raided much, but dude the server I was on had a whole linkshell of people playing PUP, so.... yeah a lot of people liked the job even if they may not have raided with it. At least I knew a lot of people who liked it *shrug*

[cicatriz313]

Quite simply, I am tired of people saying that Dancer could not have been a healer and implying that healers shouldn't get any other job due to "limitations" on remaining jobs. It's a stupid argument. If the dev team wants to make a new healer, they can. I feel people are just saying F*** healers they should never get anything and that makes me really angry. And I'm already angry at the dev team because they have tried to force their "vision" into healer balance for so long and yet, they seem to not be taking healer balance seriously. I'm worried for all healer jobs at the moment come May. And I was really hoping on a healer job (dancer or not) this expansion.

Yep, if they wanted to make a new healer, they would have. No one is saying that to healers, not sure why that would come across to you that way, it's just that there's no answer to you not getting what you want besides "sorry, but this is how it is". This is the dev team's game and therefore its "vision" is what you get. I get why healers are upset, it basically just boils down to not getting what you want, but not sure why you think players are against you.

[Kaedan]

Yep, if they wanted to make a new healer, they would have. No one is saying that to healers, not sure why that would come across to you that way, it's just that there's no answer to you not getting what you want besides "sorry, but this is how it is". This is the dev team's game and therefore its "vision" is what you get. I get why healers are upset, it basically just boils down to not getting what you want, but not sure why you think players are against you.

Admittedly, a lot of posters are completely unsympathetic, and some are downright mean about saying in various ways that we don't need any new healers.

I can understand where she's coming from, but I also understand what Yoshida said about wanting to balance the three we have first before trying to add a 4th. Sucks for healers that were expecting a new job to play with.

[cicatriz313]

Admittedly, a lot of posters are completely unsympathetic, and some are downright mean about saying in various ways that we don't need any new healers.

I can understand where she's coming from, but I also understand what Yoshida said about wanting to balance the three we have first before trying to add a 4th. Sucks for healers that were expecting a new job to play with.

There's a pretty far distance between being unsympathetic to players complaining about not getting something and saying explicit language to them. Disagreeing isn't the same as being "mean". If anything, the comment I replied to admitted to responding in anger which is more akin to what you're describing.

(Also, I agree we don't need new healers. I also don't think we need new jobs period though and it's more of just a carrot to bring people back each expansion. I don't even know what jobs I'd want to add at this point since we have so many to choose from.)

[Kaedan]

There's a pretty far distance between being unsympathetic to players complaining about not getting something and saying explicit language to them. Disagreeing isn't the same as being "mean". If anything, the comment I replied to admitted to responding in anger which is more akin to what you're describing.

(Also, I agree we don't need new healers. I also don't think we need new jobs period though and it's more of just a carrot to bring people back each expansion. I don't even know what jobs I'd want to add at this point since we have so many to choose from.)

Those were two separate thoughts. I.E. there's a group of people who are simply unsympathetic, which can be off-putting to healers, but not really a big deal.

But there's also a group of people who are outright trolling any healer they see that complains about not getting a new job.

[Aramina]

but I also understand what Yoshida said about wanting to balance the three we have first before trying to add a 4th.

The problem with this is, it is literally the exact.same.reason we were given on why there was no new healer in SB. We will see what happens, but right now it seems like a blow-off since they have had 2 years to balance it, but by their own comments have failed to do so. Why should we believe another 2 years will help anything?

[cicatriz313]

The problem with this is, it is literally the exact.same.reason we were given on why there was no new healer in SB. We will see what happens, but right now it seems like a blow-off since they have had 2 years to balance it, but by their own comments have failed to do so. Why should we believe another 2 years will help anything?

It's a similar reason, but still different I think. First of all, there's the whole needing it to be a tank and balancing ranged dps reason. Then the second reason isn't just "balancing healers", but that they want to shift away from the current system of balancing they have been working with since it's not working well. I agree that people have reason to doubt though, and you shouldn't believe it will help anything if you don't want to. I don't think it was a "blow-off" to healers in any way though, as in I don't think that was their intention. Like, why would they WANT healers in their game to feel that way?

[Aramina]

It's a similar reason, but still different I think.

It's not. He literally said they wanted to balance Tanks, and Healers, before adding any new ones before SB launched. Now we are still hearing that Healers need to be balanced. You can attribute any meaning to what he said that you want to, but I am going by only what was explicitly said.

edit: I should note that I am not completely up in arms about the lack of a healer, I am still immensely excited for ShB. That said though, we best not hear the same thing for a third time two years from now.

[Damona]

I can also confirm that they said this about tanks and healers prior to the release of SB.

But we're also talking about the guys who thought that the lily system was a great Idea.