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  1. #611
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    Tanker4444's Avatar
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    Praxia Ciska
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    Quote Originally Posted by LaylaTsarra View Post
    It appears the development team wanted to make Hrothgar. Sorry but a full Hrothgar race would have made a lot more people unhappy in my opinion. Viera was definitely something a lot of people wanted so they catered to that group. They've as much said this if I'm not mistaken so I'm not sure where the debate is.

    They´ve as much as said they arent into male bunnies. Fair enough I say, and with the Hrothgar they got to make something a lot of other people as well as themselves wanted to make. There´s also the "bring in FFXI players" factor to consider. I never played it but everyone always says how Eureka was like a love letter to ffxi, not just in content but also in playstyle. Hrothgar is another step in appealing to them, on top of the existing desire for a more bestial race.
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  2. #612
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    Quote Originally Posted by Tanker4444 View Post
    They´ve as much as said they arent into male bunnies. Fair enough I say, and with the Hrothgar they got to make something a lot of other people as well as themselves wanted to make. There´s also the "bring in FFXI players" factor to consider. I never played it but everyone always says how Eureka was like a love letter to ffxi, not just in content but also in playstyle. Hrothgar is another step in appealing to them, on top of the existing bestial race desire.
    We have a lot of WOW players too. I'm not sure what they like for roles when it comes to a beast type race. I had no clue what races we were getting other than the leaks that predicted two races and one was clearly Viera. Had no idea if they would be both genders or not. I can't say I'm disappointed with their decision because i will be using both races the minute the benchmark hits and I can't wait.

    I'm not personally opposed to their adding the remaining genders. I would have to reserve judgment as to whether or not I like them just like I could not be sure I would be happy with the female Viera or male Hrothgar until I saw the reveal trailers.
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    Last edited by LaylaTsarra; 04-11-2019 at 09:15 AM.

  3. #613
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    Leone Noir
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    Quote Originally Posted by Seraphor View Post
    But...

    If we had just got Viera, we'd never see Hrothgar.
    If we had just got Hrothgar, we'd have never seen Viera.
    By getting one of each and causing this backlash, we have a real chance of unlocking the other gender for each race in 6.0

    Therefore this decision was more beneficial for the future of the game as a whole.
    Agreed. I think adding male hrothgar and female viera was the best decision they could have made. This also opens up the possibility for the future addition of male viera and female hrothgar. I'm happy for the people who wanted a beast race like hrothgar. We just have to be patient, and show our support for female hrothgar and male viera in a positive way.
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  4. #614
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    Quote Originally Posted by Kaedan View Post
    Sorry, but I'm calling BS on this. With the concept art released of Viera a long time back, as well as Fran appearing in the raid content, there would have been fire and brimstone raining down on these forums far worse than anything that has happened for lack of genders.
    Nope
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  5. #615
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    Crossposting from the mViera Thread:

    Quote Originally Posted by ArcaneCarbuncle View Post
    Just popping in because I just thought of a compromise I'd be fine with.

    What if, for male Viera bodies, they simply reused the male Au Ra model, albeit without the scales and scaled to an appropriate height, but no other alterations; and then plopped unique heads on top?
    This would do multiple things:
    a) It would provide a slim yet strong build that the majority seems to be okay with, while keeping it somewhat unique
    b) Gives us access to the truly unique feature of the Viera, the (most likely customizable) ears
    c) Doesn't increase SE's workload by much, since any unique alterations would already be made for the Au Ra; they'd just have to scale it accordingly (which might even be automatable?)

    They could do something similar for female Hroths, simply reuse the female Roegadyn model scaled to height and adding a fur texture, then put the unique heads on top.

    Now, while this wouldn't be ideal, if ressources and workflow are truly the issue, I'd still be fine with this over getting no mViera/fHrothgar.
    Of course they'd still have to put in the initial work for modeling the heads and making the animations, but adjusting existing and future gearsets would be far less grueling and ressource intensive.
    Just something to think about.
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  6. #616
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    so there is Female Hrothgar just rare
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  7. #617
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    Lihtleita Lonstyrmwyn
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    Quote Originally Posted by Duskane View Post

    so there is Female Hrothgar just rare
    "lionlike appearance- or the males at least"
    lads this worries me. we might have a case of au ra dimorphism
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  8. #618
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    Quote Originally Posted by Lihtleita View Post
    "lionlike appearance- or the males at least"
    lads this worries me. we might have a case of au ra dimorphism
    well females could just be another cat like beast race just not mostly lion like
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  9. #619
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    Elja Djt-dvre
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    Quote Originally Posted by Lihtleita View Post
    "lionlike appearance- or the males at least"
    lads this worries me. we might have a case of au ra dimorphism
    there is nothing about "the males at least" in Japanese version btw. Only said there that they have big difference in amount and women are rare. Vieras description has differences too.
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    Nestama Eynfoetsyn
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    Quote Originally Posted by Lihtleita View Post
    "lionlike appearance- or the males at least"
    lads this worries me. we might have a case of au ra dimorphism
    On one hand, this concerns me that if we are to see a female Hrothgar, they'll be human woman with animal bits (typical MMO fashion). On the other hand... maybe they have a different {animal}like appearance? Maybe Wolflike (I vaguely recall something being said about wolflike faces)?
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