Female Hrothgar as a playable race. Show your support!

[Madiera]

Well Yoshi did mention that this would be the last race implemented in the game. (probably so they can work on new and old content that needs balancing and polish. Lets not act like resources are infinite...

Well tbh, didn't he say that about the Au-Ra? And didn't he also say that Rouge/NIN was going to be the first AND last class to be added through patches...just to then release BLU through patches? Things change is all this is pointing out to me lol.

[Zensho]

Well tbh, didn't he say that about the Au-Ra? And didn't he also say that Rouge/NIN was going to be the first AND last class to be added through patches...just to then release BLU through patches? Things change is all this is pointing out to me lol.

The cake was a lie.

[reivaxe]

Have to ask why make male Hrothgar then? the least played male race roe has a similar build to it, male Viera would most likely have been more popular based on how the devs envision them yet they decided to allocate those resources to a less popular choice. SE will do what SE do so saying its a waste is down to SE alone to decide if it actually is worthwhile

I'll explain!
Here's the thing, roebros have big, wide, soft rectangle bodies with very long arms and short legs. They basically look like gorillas. That's not the most appealing shape in the world (I'll come back to this later). HROTHGAR have buff men proportions. Inverted triangle strong guy body shape, normal proportioned arms and legs. Like yoshi said they're gonna look better in gear than the legit "meat wall" roebros.

That being said roebros are not really that unpopular. Least played male race with 4 times more cat bois played than them ... Ok. But they're only 4k behind male elezen and roebros are played more than both female elezen and femroe ( not that far from both combined). And compare them to femroe who are out played over 17 times more by cat girls and yeah, its clear that male toons have a much more even spread than females. So if you wanna depart from reg human body you're far better off doing it with a male of a race.

As for why HROTHGAR over male Viera, not only do they add something to the gqme but they stand out. Male viera would just be yet another slim handsom race which is covered by like 3 or 4 races. I truly don't think they'd be that popular amoung people who play male toons. HROTHGAR actually have many features that can draw in people who want a big race or a beastly race or a furry race but weren't happy with their options. Lots of people I see wanting to convert are cat bois, some are scaly bois and roebros.

As for female hrothgar We know that by any logic they would have to basically be femroe with animal heads given how extreme the guys are. I say this because when making femroe they normalized our proportions to look like big strong humans because no ones gonna play a gorilla (roebro) with boobs.

[DamianFatale]

I'll explain!
Here's the thing, roebros have big, wide, soft rectangle bodies with very long arms and short legs. They basically look like gorillas. That's not the most appealing shape in the world (I'll come back to this later). HROTHGAR have buff men proportions. Inverted triangle strong guy body shape, normal proportioned arms and legs. Like yoshi said they're gonna look better in gear than the legit "meat wall" roebros.

That being said roebros are not really that unpopular. Least played male race with 4 times more cat bois played than them ... Ok. But they're only 4k behind male elezen and roebros are played more than both female elezen and femroe ( not that far from both combined). And compare them to femroe who are out played over 17 times more by cat girls and yeah, its clear that male toons have a much more even spread than females. So if you wanna depart from reg human body you're far better off doing it with a male of a race.

As for why HROTHGAR over male Viera, not only do they add something to the gqme but they stand out. Male viera would just be yet another slim handsom race which is covered by like 3 or 4 races. I truly don't think they'd be that popular amoung people who play male toons. HROTHGAR actually have many features that can draw in people who want a big race or a beastly race or a furry race but weren't happy with their options. Lots of people I see wanting to convert are cat bois, some are scaly bois and roebros.

As for female hrothgar We know that by any logic they would have to basically be femroe with animal heads given how extreme the guys are. I say this because when making femroe they normalized our proportions to look like big strong humans because no ones gonna play a gorilla (roebro) with boobs.

I agree with what you said about the Hrothgars body shape, but from what I see, Viera men seem to be the most popular of the gender lock issue, while female Hrothgar seem popular, they are not as in much demand as male Viera.

Its quite clear that the fandom is more vocal about them than Hrothgar. However, I still think both gender locks should be undone. There is a lot of support for female Hrothgar/Ronso.

[xxvaynxx]

Well tbh, didn't he say that about the Au-Ra? And didn't he also say that Rouge/NIN was going to be the first AND last class to be added through patches...just to then release BLU through patches? Things change is all this is pointing out to me lol.

He didn't say Au Ra would be the last race. If he did, I need proof.
Because I do remember him saying, they're gonna take the feedback they get on au ra for the next race, implying their will be more; I remember him saying that somewhere.

BLU hardly counts as they didn't need to worry about balancing it with the other jobs since its was made to be a limited job.

[reivaxe]

I agree with what you said about the Hrothgars body shape, but from what I see, Viera men seem to be the most popular of the gender lock issue, while female Hrothgar seem popular, they are not as in much demand as male Viera.

Its quite clear that the fandom is more vocal about them than Hrothgar. However, I still think both gender locks should be undone. There is a lot of support for female Hrothgar/Ronso.

All of the "gender lock fandom" here is a vocal minority joke in the grand scheme of things. That Viera male thread is big ... but how much of that is just non stop debates or just the same group of people talking in cycles in an effort to keep it relevant to "show support?"

To put it bluntly Viera male's topic is the hot topic because some people see Viera as "eye candy" and wanted to see play boy bunny bois to please their Kink. Tis why when they didn't get it many people felt comfy calling Yoshi sexist (as if he made Viera to be eye candy to straight men instead of looking at the fact that people who PLAY females in this game clearly prefer attractive/ cute females over the likes of Femroe and Elezen) and homophobic (cause clearly he most hate gays if he didn't make some eye candy boi for gay men....). They have since self policed that out for the most part from what I can see but it's clearly the driving motivation.

Everyone knows Female Hrothgar would be FemRoe v2 so not many of those people care outside of using "fairness" as a means to offer support and cover up the reason they want Male Viera.

I mean, I try to avoid this topic because even though I WOULD play female Hrothgar I know anyone here who isn't one of the 7K femRoe players in this game most likely won't suddenly want to play a FemRoe with an animal head.

[MrKimper]

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How can something be the driving motivation..if it's been police'd out? :thinking:

[RicaRuin]

I don't play a FemRoe but would totally change to a buff female Hrothgar, you guys have more support than you think. .__.

[xbahax92]

To put it bluntly Viera male's topic is the hot topic because some people see Viera as "eye candy" and wanted to see play boy bunny bois to please their Kink. Tis why when they didn't get it many people felt comfy calling Yoshi sexist (as if he made Viera to be eye candy to straight men instead of looking at the fact that people who PLAY females in this game clearly prefer attractive/ cute females over the likes of Femroe and Elezen) and homophobic (cause clearly he most hate gays if he didn't make some eye candy boi for gay men....). They have since self policed that out for the most part from what I can see but it's clearly the driving motivation.

You know, this is exactly the reason why the male Viera thread is getting more bumped than female Hroth. Because people like you come up with weird accusations and insults, and they pop up more often in the viera thread than here.

Even the proViera share the same opinion like you, to accuse Yoshida and the dev team being sexist or homophobic is wrong on every level, that creating new races is a lot of work and takes up resources. But you guys are just keep ignoring that and bring those things constantly up. No wonder all these threads are highly active. Because we are all being placed in the same pot, we all want to go ERP in Mateus. /s

[Bellsong]

All of the "gender lock fandom" here is a vocal minority joke in the grand scheme of things. That Viera male thread is big ... but how much of that is just non stop debates or just the same group of people talking in cycles in an effort to keep it relevant to "show support?"

To put it bluntly Viera male's topic is the hot topic because some people see Viera as "eye candy" and wanted to see play boy bunny bois to please their Kink. Tis why when they didn't get it many people felt comfy calling Yoshi sexist (as if he made Viera to be eye candy to straight men instead of looking at the fact that people who PLAY females in this game clearly prefer attractive/ cute females over the likes of Femroe and Elezen) and homophobic (cause clearly he most hate gays if he didn't make some eye candy boi for gay men....). They have since self policed that out for the most part from what I can see but it's clearly the driving motivation.

Everyone knows Female Hrothgar would be FemRoe v2 so not many of those people care outside of using "fairness" as a means to offer support and cover up the reason they want Male Viera.

I mean, I try to avoid this topic because even though I WOULD play female Hrothgar I know anyone here who isn't one of the 7K femRoe players in this game most likely won't suddenly want to play a FemRoe with an animal head.

I've a mighty feeling this is just a case of confirmation bias. If you weren't looking so hard for posts accusing SE of sexism and yoshi being homophobic, you'd see plenty of people in favor of male Viera and Female Hroth who think it' seriously dumb to make those claims.

Example: I'm one of those people.