Female Hrothgar as a playable race. Show your support!

[Zebraoracle]

I will always desire playable bangaa, but with the travesty that was hrothgar and viera, I have no hope whatsoever that Square would do a good job on them. Like, at all, it'd just be another insulting bundle of excuses, even moreso because bangaa don't even have the benefit of having remotely humanoid faces or feet, unlike hrothgar.

[XiRon]

I will always desire playable bangaa, but with the travesty that was hrothgar and viera, I have no hope whatsoever that Square would do a good job on them. Like, at all, it'd just be another insulting bundle of excuses, even moreso because bangaa don't even have the benefit of having remotely humanoid faces or feet, unlike hrothgar.

yeah we're never getting a super fantasy anthro race unless they can bastardize it like they did ronso (terrible starting gear meanwhile viera got fran glamour, hunch when ronso are upright despite digifeet).

[Iscah]

Arnt they the last race we'll ever get?

I seriously hope not, I want another small race to go alongside lala, maybe a robot race or glowy soul race.

Neither of those would make sense in the setting. They need to be "normal people" or the MSQ gets weird.

Also, from a design perspective, the Hrothgar and Viera debacle has demonstrated that players won't accept "it's an artistic choice to allow greater character design variety" to mean they get anything less than the full array of clothing and hairstyles, so any hypothetical new race would have to wear the same things that everyone else gets.

Fixed that for you friend.
Not that Im saying we WILL get new races. But I dont think he outright said "No more races"

Please don't "fix" people's quotes. Just quote what they said, so their own words are what gets shown in their quote bubble, and respond to it below.

And I think he did prettymuch say-without-saying this is the last race. The whole reason for taking the half-and-half race approach in the first time was because the number of character designs was straining their development schedule and they thought it might be the last one they could make; they have since been forced to add the other genders and so effectively add one more race beyond what they planned for.

It's possible when they first made the split race they had a window open for maybe one more race in future if it seemed viable, and they were forced to spend it sooner-than-planned on the counterparts.

yeah we're never getting a super fantasy anthro race unless they can bastardize it like they did ronso (terrible starting gear meanwhile viera got fran glamour, hunch when ronso are upright despite digifeet).

Terrible is subjective. I think the Hrothgar starting gear looks good, though it seems at odds with everything else they've used the race for.

Turning one character's unique outfit into starter gear for the entire race seems the weirder choice to me. I have to wonder if they only did it to sidestep any requests to add it as gear for everyone.

[VictorTheed]

Neither of those would make sense in the setting. They need to be "normal people" or the MSQ gets weird.

Also, from a design perspective, the Hrothgar and Viera debacle has demonstrated that players won't accept "it's an artistic choice to allow greater character design variety" to mean they get anything less than the full array of clothing and hairstyles, so any hypothetical new race would have to wear the same things that everyone else gets.

You can play as a Hrothgar male from lvl 1 MSQ all the way to the end of 6.2 MSQ, they are beastly looking instead of more humanoid like the other races, so "Normal People" looking characters has already been shown to not matter.

So because they dropped the ball on the headgear for Hrothgar/Viera then we should just not have any new races? My lady you are way to black pill'd, you need to be white pill'd and have some hope.

Modders have already proven that they can get headgear on Hrothgar and Viera, the reason the dev team couldn't was probably due to rushing 2 races at once instead of focusing on one for SHB and the other for a later expansion, players are always gonna bitch, you're never gonna plz everyone but that doesn't mean u shouldn't try to plz others, plus u see so many male/female Viera in game then I wonder, how pissed are they if they keep playing em all the time.

[VictorTheed]

Dream of taking the knees of the Roe Wall.

We will crush that Roe wall, we got the Lopporitz & the Omnicrons on our side, plus I'll throw bottles of Pepsi at em.

[Zebraoracle]

Terrible is subjective. I think the Hrothgar starting gear looks good, though it seems at odds with everything else they've used the race for.

Turning one character's unique outfit into starter gear for the entire race seems the weirder choice to me. I have to wonder if they only did it to sidestep any requests to add it as gear for everyone.

Personally I hate the hrothgar starting chestpiece. The corset-looking bit around the abdomen really kills it for me.

[Duskane]

yeah we're never getting a super fantasy anthro race unless they can bastardize it like they did ronso (terrible starting gear meanwhile viera got fran glamour, hunch when ronso are upright despite digifeet).

I've seen opposite take much more often
the fact Hrothgar get somthing unique while female Viera just get a fran port

[Misplaced_Marbles]

Neither of those would make sense in the setting. They need to be "normal people" or the MSQ gets weird.

When we have murderbots building "the cafe at the end of the universe", i don't see how any of those suggestions would be unnatural, "normal" being what it is. And as for the MSQ, well... When you punch the physical embodiment of despair, you know you've got a few screws loose.

[Iscah]

You can play as a Hrothgar male from lvl 1 MSQ all the way to the end of 6.2 MSQ, they are beastly looking instead of more humanoid like the other races, so "Normal People" looking characters has already been shown to not matter.

So because they dropped the ball on the headgear for Hrothgar/Viera then we should just not have any new races?

That isn't what I said. I said that any new races would need to get the same outfits and hairstyles as the other races.

So your hypothetical robots and glowy soul people would still be stuck with standard human hairstyles and costumes.

And I do think Hrothgar are a step beyond what should fit within the established MSQ, but they're still flesh-and-blood living people. I don't think that's a boundary that they can go outside in designing player races who are introduced at the beginning of the story.

Personally I hate the hrothgar starting chestpiece. The corset-looking bit around the abdomen really kills it for me.

It looks more gladiator than corset to me.

When we have murderbots building "the cafe at the end of the universe", i don't see how any of those suggestions would be unnatural, "normal" being what it is.

Those are at the opposite end of the plot, and they are NPCs. Their existence in post-game Endwalker is a new and unique thing there. It's a completely different situation to introducing them as a playable race in ARR.

[VictorTheed]

That isn't what I said. I said that any new races would need to get the same outfits and hairstyles as the other races.

So your hypothetical robots and glowy soul people would still be stuck with standard human hairstyles and costumes.

And I do think Hrothgar are a step beyond what should fit within the established MSQ, but they're still flesh-and-blood living people. I don't think that's a boundary that they can go outside in designing player races who are introduced at the beginning of the story.

That's already a given that they'd be using the same clothes as other races, minus the race specific gear each race gets, I'm sure they'd get there own version just like the others have.

The glowy soul race would be in a human form but they'd look all glowy/ ghost like, so gear would fit perfect on them, if people wanted a pure soul walking around then just use the Emperor's clothes glam pieces, but there shape would be very feasible for the devs to make, it'd be less work cause there not as detailed as like a Hyur or a Elezen, there just a glowy soul siloette.

The Robot Race could be steel looking for thier skin and could be of the same shape or a similar one as one of the current races but look different cause it's a robot, looking like Colossus from The X-Men or the arms of Jax from Mortal Kombat but full body, if they could pull it off then I'd say Cyrax, Cyber Smoke or Sector from MK as well but I'm play it safe with an easier task for the devs to fit gear on and go with the look of Colossus or Jax's arms.

Why couldn't they go beyond the flesh & blood boundaries? They could have a story similar to The Omnicrons or be an Allaghan construct or an invention of the Gobbies or a undiscovered Garlean Project or a concept the Sharlayan Forum came up with or maybe something different altogether, if u went the Lalafell route with them u just might be able to pull off mammots as a playable race, they already got lore for mammots to explain thier existence.