Female Hrothgar as a playable race. Show your support!

[Midareyukki]

What other models have been edited? I can't think of any? or do you mean old content being edited in a different way?

(If they were to edit older models I have Such a List! Haha. Starting with Loonh Gah needing Paglth'an armor to match her Amalj'aa fam.)

Correction. I don't mention "models", I mention "content". That content being A Realm Reborn's ending, for one, and them removing quests. Old content has been edited. And, considering they can change our character's models and animations

Because cutscenes are just them taking our characters and say:
"Okay. Depending on the race, have the camera face their head at X angle, Y height. Then, have them do this specific emote. Adjust character models so that larger models don't clip through other people". We're just coordinates, the rendering is done by the computer itself by grabbing assets and making those assets work. Meaning that turning Misija into a Female Hrothgar is 100% doable.

Also, there's a better example xD Yugiri. They could have gone back and changed Yugiri to fit the game, the issue is that Yugiri felt justified, as it foreshadows Au Ra's plight with Ishgard and even her dialogue at times is all about how she's veiled. However, to my knowledge (I could be wrong), Misija makes zero mention of her being a Roegadyn. The transition to a Female Hrothgar is perfectly doable.

...and if I may open Pandora's Box here...

...this is why mods both work and are sometimes seen as dangerous.

I personally would really loath if the first ladygar in existence was a worthless bitch serving a shithole racist empire who betrayed bozja for people who've been oppressing them for 50 years

True, it'd be in poor taste. If I don't wish that fate on Roegadyn I shouldn't wish it on us either.

If youve levelled summoner post-EW Ymhitra says the Bozjan Resistence found Allagan Ruins (yawn) so that could be a future Variant Dungeon wherein like Nanamo in Sildih, a hrothgar traverses its depths with us. Since no female hrothgar had the stones to fight garlemald (love that attention to detail in the bozja story seriously where tf were they?!) I assume they're dainty little researchers.

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idek what I can say, that just sounds bad. I get it's an excuse, but... really? You're gonna tell me a race of lion people, made to be a beast race and with some notable feral animations, considering how Pantherines are, would just be okay with every collective woman deciding to not do anything and just sit on a pile of books while the men fought? xD National Geographic would have had a field day.

Also kinda sexist ngl

[Midareyukki]

God I hope they dont tokenize the first femgar like they did Erenville. She doesnt have to be a scion but give her actual shit to do. Yugiri rules because SHE gave yanxians conviction to fight back, SHE asked us "hey dyou just wanna get this shit over with and kill Zenos already" like yes ofc he sucks lets knife his throat gurl! (we fail sadly but props for having initiative unlike every other slag in the narrative)

I'll say this, this is what I feel is missing from FF14. The devs made it clear that they're too stuck up and are playing the "they're too rare :c" card for there being almost no representation for these races.

Nevermind the fact that Xaela and especially Raen are also somewhat isolationist, yet they've been prominently featured literally everywhere.

But the First and the Thirteenth are being explored. Why isn't Zero a Viera? Why can't we have more of these races on those alternate realms, considering how differently they've since evolved from the Source?

...it's her tipping the hat, isn't it? It's because they know that they'd have to animate hats on Vieras.

Still, what I mean is that these races can be way more expanded upon on these other realms, but odds are they still won't because... reasons I guess.

[RyuDragnier]

Except she wasnt a good person. Good people do not say "if you fight oppression you're as bad as your oppressor" (which she says to Marsak when he points out Garleans are slaughtering native bozjans). Good people do not cackle like hyenas when they rob people seeking freedom of their minds and wills, as she did when she tempered the Blades. And her story was not interesting because it was just a shit rehash of Fordolas story, and she took focus off the hrothgar. Why were hrothgar even the native race of Bozja when the story about Bozja gives them 0 screentime or shit to do beyond being cannonfodder, honestly the Bozja story was transparently the devs saying "we need hrothgar players to know just how much we hate them. no no not making even 1 femgar model isnt good enough kill em all and make the story all about some shit Eorzean races for the millionth time".

Her mindset was warped by her own hatred. Considering how Lyon basically put on that fake act to get us to her, I have a feeling that Menenius and Lyon both had absolute disdain for her actions and wanted to get rid of her because of them.

Menenius is loyal to Noah to a fault, to where anything that could endanger Noah's vision must be gotten rid of, and a loose cannon like Misija is definitely somebody he'd see as a threat. Lyon as we know, LOVES battle, and would despise Misija's actions because she's slaughtering people without a fight, tempering them without overpowering them. Noah himself likely would have been enraged by Misija's actions, as he wants a nation where people are treated as equals, and Misija spat in the face of that.

[XiRon]

Her mindset was warped by her own hatred. Considering how Lyon basically put on that fake act to get us to her, I have a feeling that Menenius and Lyon both had absolute disdain for her actions and wanted to get rid of her because of them.

Menenius is loyal to Noah to a fault, to where anything that could endanger Noah's vision must be gotten rid of, and a loose cannon like Misija is definitely somebody he'd see as a threat. Lyon as we know, LOVES battle, and would despise Misija's actions because she's slaughtering people without a fight, tempering them without overpowering them. Noah himself likely would have been enraged by Misija's actions, as he wants a nation where people are treated as equals, and Misija spat in the face of that.

See I dont believe Gabranth had any good intentions because HE was the one who said "use a primal" to get Bozjans to cooperate and he was the one who allowed Dabog to be warped into a hypertuned monster. So hes either totally incompetent or just as evil and putrid as Misija and Sicinius.

[RyuDragnier]

See I dont believe Gabranth had any good intentions because HE was the one who said "use a primal" to get Bozjans to cooperate and he was the one who allowed Dabog to be warped into a hypertuned monster. So hes either totally incompetent or just as evil and putrid as Misija and Sicinius.

Keep in mind that Noah only accepted the primal plan, but may not have been aware of other things, such as the insane experiments of Sicinius. From Menenius' first field records on how Menenius himself is.

A close friend and confidant of Noah van Gabranth since their early years, his loyalty to the Gabranths─both father and son─is absolute. Perhaps for this reason, he is willing─even eager─to accept the most unsavory jobs, making him uniquely suited to his current role. His methods are known to be cruel and inhumane, earning him a reputation as one who will justify any means to accomplish his ends. In truth, however, even his worst atrocities are motivated by a burning, yet forever-unseen passion to serve the Gabranths to the best of his abilities.

When the Garlean war of succession broke out, Legatus Gabranth chose the path of independence, realizing his long-held dream. As a result, however, the IVth Legion ceased to receive provisions or reinforcements from the Empire, rendering their position increasingly precarious as their battle with the Resistance dragged on. It was this grave situation that inspired Menenius, devoted as ever to serving the Gabranths, to propose his most ingenious operation yet, one that might breathe new life to their ragged ranks, throw the Resistance into chaos, and one day lead to the formation of a proud new nation. And so the legend of Save the Queen was born...

There's also the fact that he was given one specific task. From his second field notes.

With the Empire now fallen, and no reinforcements from Garlemald on the way, the IVth was forced to make their last stand in Dalmasca and Bozja. Astutely concluding that fighting on two fronts would soon deplete their resources and rations—leaving the legion scarcely able to sustain themselves, let alone fight—Noah van Gabranth made the decision to abandon Bozja and focus on holding Dalmasca alone. And yet, he could not simply order a complete withdrawal, lest the Eastern alliance immediately swoop in and attack them from Bozja as well as Doma. Until such time as they were able to muster their full strength in Dalmasca, they had to hold strong on the Bozjan and Nagxian fronts.

This was the task entrusted to Menenius—to preserve a stalemate here and buy needed time by whatever means necessary. It was not a glorious task, but it was one the tribunus accepted willingly.

To this end, Menenius devised multiple stratagems. First among them involved employing the legendary might of Save the Queen and its powers of tempering. So it was that Misija gave her life for the cause, delivering a great blow to the Resistance.

Meanwhile, behind the scenes, the tribunus continued his search for the armaments—frightful weapons of ancient Allag. The expedition bore fruit in Zadnor, in the form of the Diablo Armament, which was quickly deployed in Dalmasca to keep the resistance at bay. Menenius then proceeded to unearth yet more frightful holy relics, which he employed to send further horrors to the battlefield to fight in the Empire's name.

All this succeeded in prolonging Garlean control in Dalmasca for a measure, but Menenius knew as well as any it would not be a final solution—and that the once-proud IVth Legion was nearing its last days.

Menenius had known Noah since the two were children. Since the day the latter assumed command as legatus, his orders were always delivered with confidence and clarity. Even more important, the full intent behind his orders, Gabranth's ultimate goals, and the repercussions and effects his actions would entail—all were clearly conveyed, explicitly or implicitly. This time, Menenius could not fully grasp his commander's intentions. Lyon, on the other hand, seemed quite certain of the truth—a truth Menenius himself vaguely suspected, but perhaps did not want to accept...

The scouts and intelligence operatives Menenius had dispatched throughout the region brought him regular reports. As they told it, Noah was most concerned with what would become of the various Resistance leaders after they had won their independence and the Garlean occupation was no more. He sought to know their plans—the blueprint they would follow.

As he considered this, Menenius realized with a sinking feeling that his suspicions were on target. Here in Bozja, so long as Bajsaljen occupied a position of leadership, Noah's ultimate goal would be realized. But what of Dalmasca? More populous than Bozja, and with its various factions far from united, the future was far from certain. Knowing Noah, he doubtless already understood this, and had already deployed a pawn to guide Dalmasca in his desired direction...

And so Menenius pondered. Lyon had once posed the question—is there a need for one so young and full of promise to throw away their life in a bloody war? Of course not, thought Menenius. With defeat, death is inevitable. But it is the duty of those at the top—myself included—to give our lives so that those who follow us may still live.

This Menenius knew, for he was above all a military man, and he knew the ways of armies and war. Still, was this truly the answer?

Noah van Gabranth. Young Noah, who Legatus Basch entrusted to him, whose life his father-in-law Lucius risked his life to protect—was this all Menenius could do now? To loyally assist as his legatus threw his own life away?

Lyon assured him that Noah's mind was already made up. Still, Menenius could not fully accept it. Is this truly the answer?

[LinaAkayomi]

Man, I just want to play as a big buff feline, but I can't play male hrothgar.
Playing as male characters makes me incredibly uncomfortable. I know it is a "me" problem, but still.
7.0 is my best bet, but even then, it's not even guaranteed for that. And earlier than 7.0 feels almost impossible at this point.
I just wish we had some more info about them, other than that February Live Letter. Even if it's something like "We're still working on them, we can't show anything yet, but we haven't forgotten about them and we're working hard"

Even that would just make the wait more bearable.

[Zanarkand-Ronso]

XiRon, RyuDragneir, & Wind-Krysvein from that other thread if he ever sees this.
Ya'll Hrothgar make me happy and are great to look at. Being a FFX fan (its pretty much in my name & Username) its great to see the Blue Hue, and be reminded of the Ronso.

Nothing to do with the thread...I know...just giving a shoutout to these lovely looking Hrothgar~

[Pip_Chick]

Man, I just want to play as a big buff feline, but I can't play male hrothgar.
Playing as male characters makes me incredibly uncomfortable. I know it is a "me" problem, but still.
7.0 is my best bet, but even then, it's not even guaranteed for that. And earlier than 7.0 feels almost impossible at this point.
I just wish we had some more info about them, other than that February Live Letter. Even if it's something like "We're still working on them, we can't show anything yet, but we haven't forgotten about them and we're working hard"

Even that would just make the wait more bearable.

I feel you there, I just wish I could be a big lion lady, preferably before 7.0...
I have played as a male Hrothgar for 3 years, really love the race, right now I changed to play as a female character for a bit. But man... I just want some form of news already. I am not asking for a certain release, but at least something...

[Pip_Chick]

Being a FFX fan (its pretty much in my name & Username) its great to see the Blue Hue, and be reminded of the Ronso.

This. I loved and I still regard FFX to be my favourite game in the FF franchise. The Ronso were my favourite race, they just looked so majestic and cool. And were also very funny to me. Blue-coloured Hrothgar are definitely great looking!

[XiRon]

XiRon, RyuDragneir, & Wind-Krysvein from that other thread if he ever sees this.
Ya'll Hrothgar make me happy and are great to look at. Being a FFX fan (its pretty much in my name & Username) its great to see the Blue Hue, and be reminded of the Ronso.

Nothing to do with the thread...I know...just giving a shoutout to these lovely looking Hrothgar~

Danke, I actually couldn't decide what color at first then went "well hell Kimahri's blue" and was shocked at how rare it is among Lostgar lol. But I could never change now bc my mans is perfect and any time I do think of changing his appearance I'm like "no thats not him".