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  1. #3181
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    ronibosch's Avatar
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    Tuul Muluk
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    Excalibur
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    Warrior Lv 90
    I'm genuinely excited for Hrothgals! :D It'd give me an excuse to make an alt.
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  2. #3182
    Player dapperfaffer's Avatar
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    Reis Tengille
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    Brynhildr
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    Dancer Lv 90
    imo, I think you're more likely to see a more viera centric head type with an alternating body type like thighlander since female viera already have the face presets for an elongated but shortened snout range.
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  3. #3183
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    Silverbane's Avatar
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    Z'nnah Silverbane
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    Halicarnassus
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    Sage Lv 100
    Given that female felines don't have much in the way of visible breasts except when nursing, I'd like to see SE conform with that, and give female Hrothgar (other than nursing NPCs) a breast size slider that goes from none to at most A-cup.
    I'd also like to see only modest narrowing at the waist.
    Differentiation from Hrothgar males would be by skeletal structure: more refined skulls, narrower shoulders, wider hips, more vertical posture.

    It'd be different, without being too much work to adapt the existing gear to.
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  4. #3184
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    Lubu_Mykono's Avatar
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    Lubu Mykono
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    Phantom
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    Dark Knight Lv 90
    Female Hrothgar should be petit but well endowed with thicc thighs and Khajit head.
    Otherwise it will be a a waste.
    No one wants femroes 2.0
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  5. #3185
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    Zanarkand-Ronso's Avatar
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    Johanna Yevon
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    Adamantoise
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    White Mage Lv 100
    I said it a good while ago, but I could talk forever about my IDEAL bodytype for the Hrothgals: Femroe Body, follow suit with the males using MaleRoe body.
    But honestly, as time moves on Im caring less about the body.....I just want them to have a Beast Face.
    As long as the have a snout and a muzzle, and look like a Big Cat like their male Counterpart, then Ill Ultimately be happy.

    But in the body, Im not asking for a roided bodybuilder, not looking for a refrigerator body. Just a tall, strong looking female...like the FemRoe.
    Not a Man with tits.
    There are beautiful and pretty girls out there with Muscle that arnt on roids.
    And if anyone wants to bring back that Hrothgar are based on Ronso....well...the Females were very tall, like FemRoe.
    So its not like my idea there is outlandish or anything.

    And, to this day I wont move on my thoughts of the Mural.
    Maybe Im wrong, Maybe Im right. But I wont conceed until they show us a Finalized Render, a REAL InGame Model.
    Untill then, everything is speculation
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  6. #3186
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    reivaxe's Avatar
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    Jellicle Jayde
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    Maduin
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    Gladiator Lv 90
    Quote Originally Posted by Pip_Chick View Post
    I can see that. I like the mural interpretation of the body, the head is pretty much hard to make out from a front view. So there is a possibility of them looking more like house cats in the face... Something like the Egyptian Goddes Bastet? If there was like a side view of them or some snip bit from either Bozjan architecture or the Logs to have a small idea. 1 thing that I noticed is the mural... almost looks like an Egyptian mural, and Cats were venerated like royalty in ancient Egypt... do you think they might have been hinting at this? Or is it just my brain making connections where they aren't?
    No, I also felt that the mural was very "Egyptian themed" clothing wise with the white linen look and the gold. One thing I also took note of before was researching Bast and finding out that she use to be depicted with a Lion head and associated more so with vengeance at first. Over time, she started being depicted with the head of a domesticated house Cat, to be seen as more protective and benevolent as well as to connect to the role house cats played in their lives (when cats killing rats is whats keeping your gains from getting fked, they're gonna be seen as protective). The Lioness head became more associated with Sekhmet after that.
    So I always thought "Small/ house cat" made sense.

    As for details on the head, yeah, that's gonna have to be a "wait for some 3D renders" thing. There's lots of ways to pull it off, just seeing Lops boosted my confidence in them 5 fold.

    I mean, see see stuff like this ...
    Quote Originally Posted by Lubu_Mykono View Post
    Female Hrothgar should be petit but well endowed with thicc thighs and Khajit head.
    Otherwise it will be a a waste.
    No one wants femroes 2.0
    And it's funny someone should post this now. On the topic of "What I WANT vs what I think the devs will do" this sings truer than most.

    Over a year ago, I dusted off my pencils and tried to work shop some art. After thinking about it, what I WANT would be a short pear shaped woman with a Loporrit style head. Something like a Midlander version of a Lala with cat Loporrit head. Simply put, it would actually be a unique body type that isn't really in the game. The only "pear shaped" women are Lalas and you either think they're cute lil adults that look like chibis ooor you're walking that dark line into creepo town.
    2B bottoms and constant talk of butt sliders make it clear that people want the option to be bottom heavier than what's in the game, so why not make a race for that?


    Plus, the idea of Hrothgar being a race of huge simp dudes to some short stack women is just funny to me.

    After Bozja made it clear that they were gonna be not-too-shorter than Femroe, slimmer and more feminine, I started penciling out what I thought played into that.




    Stopped trying as I felt that, like pretty much all other female Hrothgar art I saw, it never really looked like a Hrothgar face. But it kinda clicked recently for me when I broke down the Hrothgar face, they have "human male face structure" with animal features added on ... my and most furry styles are the complete opposite by going for animal shaped heads with exaggerated human like eyes added ontop. That's why my cartoony cat women and most of the fan art I saw doesn't feel "right" to me, as they assume that Hrothgar are just animal headed characters with SOME human features.

    Tis how I started using Midjourney, to see wtf a AI would do with the concept of smashing animal and human face features together. I'd say the result I post doesn't go human enough ... I could alter it to make the nose smaller, lips more prominent and do w/e with the ears as even SE doesn't care about making Lion accurate ears.
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    Last edited by reivaxe; 09-01-2022 at 08:23 AM.

  7. #3187
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    Zanarkand-Ronso's Avatar
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    Johanna Yevon
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    Adamantoise
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    Quote Originally Posted by reivaxe View Post


    On a 2nd look, the 1st picture doesn't look THAT bad. I can almost visualize a Decent Feline face out of it.
    But the other 2, no thanks. They just arnt doing it for me.
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  8. #3188
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    NishaSetsuya's Avatar
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    Nisha Dovah'glaedr
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    Cerberus
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    Gunbreaker Lv 91
    I just hope we don't get another situation of whatever that meme is i'm fine.
    Like can't we have mommy hrothgar that look like the one designed by Karmaho(@kkron_m on twitter) because they look so good....
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  9. #3189
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    Allegor's Avatar
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    Red Rider
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    Hyperion
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    Sage Lv 90
    "hope for the best, but prepare for the worst"

    Quote Originally Posted by Allegor View Post
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    Quote Originally Posted by Allegor View Post
    Can't increase healing requirements because "it'd stress the newbies"
    Can't increase dps options either because "it'd stress the newbies"
    so apparently the only option that doesn't "stress the newbies" is either pressing 1211111111, or do nothing at all.

  10. #3190
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    Zanarkand-Ronso's Avatar
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    Johanna Yevon
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    Adamantoise
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    Quote Originally Posted by Allegor View Post
    "hope for the best, but prepare for the worst"
    Still got about a year till 7.0 talks.
    In a constant clench waiting for the Reveal.
    GOD I hope its not a kick n the teeth.

    My Hopium is strong
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