Female Hrothgar as a playable race. Show your support!

[Pip_Chick]

When who was interested in them? I thought the female hrothgar in that was fan art, that someone pulled from somewhere.

The Female Hrothgar art is a fan-art of a genderbend Kimahri from FFX. I think it's the most popular out there.
The other one with the male Viera... correct me if I am wrong, but wasn't it showcased at the same time as the Trailer for them, in the LL I mean? I am pretty sure you couldn't find it before on the internet.

[reivaxe]

The Female Hrothgar art is a fan-art of a genderbend Kimahri from FFX. I think it's the most popular out there.

Yeah, was gonna say this.
To this day, that fan art is the top result when looking up Female Hrothgar and many of the top results for Female Ronso ... even though there's ACTUAL art of them and images of them in the game they're in. Given literally every non-lala example in the game, I think making the women more uniform and conventionally attractive is a given personally. Even more so now that it's clear Hrothgar get the same hair as everyone else and the shared hair looks mostly trashtasic on them because they didn't make them with the thought that they would have to share hair. Female Hrothgar are being made with that in mind, it would be strange if that didn't factor into making something that better rides the line between men-and-beast head.

Definitely not a fan of how the face looks in those, if I'm being honest. The mouth (hell, the lower part of the face in general, really) especially. Way too human for what should be a beast.

If you look at your Hrothgar and compare the mouth to a reg house cat or even a Lion, you will see that Hrothgar already has humanized chins (and jaws) and lower lips compared to actual cats. To put it simply, most Hrothgar faces are not just animal heads stitched onto a body, they put in the effort to make them look like something that could convey human emotion and looked somewhat recognizable as appealing/ attractive.

Their bottom lip and chin and jaw line just so happen to be very masculine, as they are males. Making a cat person face with feminine lips and chin and jaw line gets you something that looks ... feminine, which would look less imposing and more soft looking (Shocker).
You aint gotta like it, but thems my logics.

[Zanarkand-Ronso]

Reminder that this was the concept art when they were interested in them.

That Genderbend of Khimari on the right is not concept art.
Its fanart

[Illmaeran]

I still support this request!

[Pip_Chick]

I really hope we will get some news soon, this wait makes me act like a child before Christmas, just checking every corner of the house to find the presents...

[RyuDragnier]

Definitely not a fan of how the face looks in those, if I'm being honest. The mouth (hell, the lower part of the face in general, really) especially. Way too human for what should be a beast.

Same. I will now and forever state the devs should go the Khajiit way of faces.

[Pip_Chick]

In here with another fan art! Cause it's been over a year since they have been announced and no word of them has come since the January LL... Anyway, how are you guys?

[reivaxe]

In here with another fan art! Cause it's been over a year since they have been announced and no word of them has come since the January LL... Anyway, how are you guys?

I wouldn't expect anything of substance until 6.3 or until they do Fan Fest.
TBH I'm shocked they told us as much as they did. The way YP worded it makes it seem like they have the body down and settled on 2 of the 4 faces by the time that LL aired. The blessing behind this is that, until they show something, they can always change it without the ire of the keyboard warriors.

Example: IDK what they were gonna do about Hrothgal's hair/ ear deal until now. Maybe they were gonna rock the wig-hides-my-ears look like the dudes did, maybe not. Who knows? But I'm 1000% sure they're gonna have ears and shared hair now, and as such it would be smarter to try to design the ears/ faces/ heads to look better with the shared hair than the dudes instead of botching both in that regard.

1 thing for sure, people aren't gonna be satisfied until there's finalized a 3D model to look at. They gave us official art, and people still want to cover their ears and close their eyes when you bring it up.

[Pip_Chick]

They gave us official art, and people still want to cover their ears and close their eyes when you bring it up.

I hope they won't make them too humanoid, that would destroy the female beast race fantasy or curse us with "Cats" the movie in FFXIV. Which is a big NOPE from me!
And I appreciate the worry about the hairs and hats concern, but honestly. If they make females look so human as in if you put them side by side with a male they wouldn't even look like they are from the same species... Then I don't even want to play them. What's the point in a beast race if they would be a joke like the Cats the movie, the Miquo'te 2.0 or just Mithra from FFXI?
I don't want to sacrifice the snout! Especially since every 3D modeller knows the true issue with Hrothgar is not their head, but the neck! The neckbone has to account for the neck, head, ears, hair, hats and earrings and place all of them on the rig making them look natural! The fact that Hrothgar has a slouch (or bends over all the time) makes everything as hard as it is! The muzzle is an extension of the face with its own rig, it doesn't affect the body rig
We already have so many human races with X body parts from Y animal added. Hrothgar breaks the mould, and is the only unique race in this game! And I want to keep it that way, it would not be fair for us women to yet again have a cool race stripped of its features and made look like sexy human lady nr.69420. In a lot of games that offer a beast race, I felt like I have to play as a male character to enjoy my race fantasy. The only game that I think did it right was 4Story with their beast race (both male and female looked the same in the head and only the body was altered to fit).
Would my request make Female Hrothgar just as limited as the Male? Yes! But it was the same thing with the Male Viera, they had the same limits as the Females and you didn't see the devs just getting the Midlander model and putting bunny ears in the same place as Miquo'tes. They actually went and made a great model for the males that, when put side by side with a female, look like they are from the same species!
So why can't we? Why must the beast race be another human waifu instead of a cool big lion lady? Why must WE be the ones who lose on racial elements like snouts, and for what? People who want to play as a Beast do so for the "Beast" factor, if you take that away, they will be taller and buffer Miquo'te. Which for the people who play beast races, that is the exact opposite. And what do you have then? An ugly uncanny valley female Hrothgar that no one wants to play as. All for the sake of waifufying everything. And the fear of no hats/hairstyles, a problem that can be resolved in 1 month by a few freelancers, since all they would have to do is to create a Hrothgar variant of them.
Sorry for going on a rant... this is not aimed toward you, just this idea that we have to give up on something cool for a minor inconvenience.

[SturmChurro]

In here with another fan art! Cause it's been over a year since they have been announced and no word of them has come since the January LL... Anyway, how are you guys?

Imagine if there was actually gear made in mind for the various tailed races with adornments like that.