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  1. #3001
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    Fenris Pendragon
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    If there is any lesson to learn here it's that the overwhelming majority of the FFXIV is not ok with being given "WoW style" races in regards to them releasing with a severely limited amount of cosmetic options. FFXIV players do not want allied races, which is already being generous in referring to the initial launch state of these two races. A game like WoW where people have 10 alts can get away with having so many restrictions on character customization, but that just isn't the case here.

    FFXIV players want things that they can go all out with, down to the last detail and for obvious reasons they want to be able to use the hard-earned hairstyles and headgear they've collected over the years on their usually *singular* main characters. How they didn't realize this early on will forever remain a mystery to me. Given this situation, there is no sustainable way to go about adding new races without significant restrictions so it would be a sound decision to not add any more after female Hrothgar are released.

    Ideally, I would like for them to release with the 7.0 graphics update so we have a product that looks good right from the start of their reveal. I especially want them to have the dreadlocks hairstyle that Viera recently got access too, along with some of long hairstyles of their own. Oh, and please do not tie faces to specific hairstyles. Make a base head shape that won't cause trouble for adding hairs, then alter the viscerocranium (face) according to each "cat" species Hrothgar faces are based off. Work smarter not harder.

    In regards to the above artwork, while the face does not look too bad and falls in line with what can be expected off female Hrothgar (though all Hrothgar fangs come from above, not below), the proportions are still significantly too large. One thing is a heroine's athletic build, another is one that simply doesn't fit in FFXIV's armor sets. It is one thing to have defined biceps while maintaining reasonable build size, it is another for them to be as enlarged as they are in the picture.
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    Last edited by aveyond-dreams; 05-11-2022 at 08:54 AM.
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  2. #3002
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    Quote Originally Posted by RyuDragnier View Post
    There's not really much to add after female Hrothgar, IMO. Because then we'll have the human race (Hyur), the dwarf race (Lalafell), the elf race (Elezen), the giant race (Roegadyn), the nekomimi race (Miqote), the race that brought nothing new to the game (Viera, and I will fight to the death on this hill), and the beast race (Hrothgar). What more can they actually add to the game that's unique?
    Either an entirely new race unique to FF14, Burmecians, an FF12 Mog Race, or some sort of avian race.
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  3. #3003
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    Zanarkand-Ronso's Avatar
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    Quote Originally Posted by SherlottaEryut View Post
    Please no....
    I don't know how anyone else feels, but at this point my worst nightmare is them bringing in anymore new races.
    If I had my Wish. Id love Bangaa put in, as well as the Lupin, and Id love Ivalician Moogles so we would have 1 more Small Option.
    We have 2 Big Options, I think its a little unfair that we only have 1 Small option.
    Bangaa and Lupin just cause. Plus it would add more Variety.
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  4. #3004
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    Quote Originally Posted by Zanarkand-Ronso View Post
    If I had my Wish. Id love Bangaa put in, as well as the Lupin, and Id love Ivalician Moogles so we would have 1 more Small Option.
    I mean, I love the Bangaa but I can see them turning out very very problematic… head-shape results in lack of hair, most likely no headgear, they would be given human feet & human hands. They just would be too limited to be worth the trouble

    Ivalician Moogles can be worked around. If SE brought in a costume, all you’d have to do is play a Lalafell, wear the outfit and bam it’s done

    It would add more variety absolutely, but SE have proven they’re incapable of up keeping these new races… I say this a fair amount of times, but maybe in the next MMO they can do things properly. But once female Hrothgar’s here I’d like the current limited races to be right up to scratch first
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  5. #3005
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    Quote Originally Posted by SherlottaEryut View Post
    I mean, I love the Bangaa but I can see them turning out very very problematic… head-shape results in lack of hair, most likely no headgear, they would be given human feet & human hands. They just would be too limited to be worth the trouble

    Ivalician Moogles can be worked around. If SE brought in a costume, all you’d have to do is play a Lalafell, wear the outfit and bam it’s done

    It would add more variety absolutely, but SE have proven they’re incapable of up keeping these new races… I say this a fair amount of times, but maybe in the next MMO they can do things properly. But once female Hrothgar’s here I’d like the current limited races to be right up to scratch first
    See, Im looking past that. Im imagining a world where they fix any & all issues plaguing the Hrothgar and they get it figured out. And then, if the idea presents itself for another race...Bangaa. They dont need hair, they never had hair. Give more ear options I guess. They can totally make headgear: if they wanted. But see for me..and Id love this for the Hrothgar and also the Lupin...create some unique Lv Headgear specifically for them. Sure..yes, they would miss out on alot of gear, but I think it would be great if they made some Race Specific gear for them, so that they they COULD wear headgear at the very least.
    Some stuff like the Bangass Visor/blindfold would be neat.
    The hands and feel...as disappointing as it would be...we can get over it. Isn't stopping the Viera Fans/Community.

    This has come up back during the the Old fiasco of Male Only Hrothgar....someone said...""If you want to play an animal, just wear the costumes"" like the Vanu Bird Outfit...and the retort was ""No, wearing a silly costume (That would lock you out of glamouring other gear) is not the same as playing an actual Race. So the idea of "Just wear a little costume" is kinda like...yeah no, id rather just be a cute moogle. Plus if you wear the little costume, you cant glam over it and it would just look messy if you did.

    Again..this idea is in A Perfect World, where they figure it out. Plus the game could use more Playable Variety.
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  6. #3006
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    Quote Originally Posted by Adamantini View Post
    sorry, I wasn't referring to you, but the type of comment you mentioned.

    Editing to explain myself better: I think it's bullshit, the kind of comment about "we should have more options for men" or "why do you want X race, or X gender? Are you not satisfied with what you have?"

    I realized that it really gives the impression that I'm referring to you, and for that, I apologize. I should have clarified better what I was talking about.
    Ah, no worries, and thanks for clarifying! I agree with those concerns as well.
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  7. #3007
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    Quote Originally Posted by RyuDragnier View Post
    There's not really much to add after female Hrothgar, IMO. Because then we'll have the human race (Hyur), the dwarf race (Lalafell), the elf race (Elezen), the giant race (Roegadyn), the nekomimi race (Miqote), the race that brought nothing new to the game (Viera, and I will fight to the death on this hill), and the beast race (Hrothgar). What more can they actually add to the game that's unique?
    Another Small Race so the Lalafells arnt the ONLY small option.
    And Bangaa for Fanservice to Ivalice fans....plus them along with the Lupin will create other Beast Race Options besides just one...and one thats none feline...because yknow...we also have the Miqote...so thats 2 cat/feline races. But we have no "real" reptile option, or a Canine Option.
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  8. #3008
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    Quote Originally Posted by AnAverageAspie View Post


    Shout out for more hroth-mom support, SE! ;3

    Artist: (Twitter)@Soft__Bunbun
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    Two new arts from @kkron_m

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    Quote Originally Posted by D3AFN3SS1337 View Post
    Two new arts from @kkron_m

    That 1st one isn't new, but that 2nd one is :9
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