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  1. #2331
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    Quote Originally Posted by HollowedDoll View Post
    player characters aren't canon, and like aside from graha how many male miqote are really in MSQ or otherwise
    That was the point I was trying to make in regards to the posters above me saying rare races being playable is lorebreaking because players are in cutscenes. An entire DC could go male viera or fem hrothgar and it wouldn't change the lore any because lore doesn't really apply to other players, only npcs :P
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  2. #2332
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    Johanna Yevon
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    So hey, the more people I talk to ingame about this and I think about it.....
    Did they clearly state if Female Hrothgar Arnt coming to Endwalker?

    I did a weird google search and saw "Male Viera coming to endwalker, and eventually Female Hrothgar" then I remembered what he said "Don't worry, Female Hrothgar are coming" along with the memory of
    "We were thinking about waiting to reveal both Male Viera and Female Hrothgar at the same time, but we decided to release them, as they are finished."
    As I thought more and more about it.....I don't think they ever said Female Hrothgar arnt coming this expansion, or that they will come NEXT expansion/7.0.

    So, Im not exactly convinced...but at the same time there is a sliver of hope there.
    I might be misremembering or forgetting a detail or 2....but I just thought about this.
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  3. #2333
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    Feiya Harlow
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    Quote Originally Posted by Zanarkand-Ronso View Post
    So hey, the more people I talk to ingame about this and I think about it.....
    Did they clearly state if Female Hrothgar Arnt coming to Endwalker?

    I did a weird google search and saw "Male Viera coming to endwalker, and eventually Female Hrothgar" then I remembered what he said "Don't worry, Female Hrothgar are coming" along with the memory of
    "We were thinking about waiting to reveal both Male Viera and Female Hrothgar at the same time, but we decided to release them, as they are finished."
    As I thought more and more about it.....I don't think they ever said Female Hrothgar arnt coming this expansion, or that they will come NEXT expansion/7.0.

    So, Im not exactly convinced...but at the same time there is a sliver of hope there.
    I might be misremembering or forgetting a detail or 2....but I just thought about this.
    They're releasing male Viera now because they're finished, rather than waiting for female Hrothgar to be finished and releasing them together.

    But you're right, they're haven't explicitly said they're not coming this expansion.
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  4. #2334
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    Johanna Yevon
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    Quote Originally Posted by Yencat View Post
    They're releasing male Viera now because they're finished, rather than waiting for female Hrothgar to be finished and releasing them together.

    But you're right, they're haven't explicitly said they're not coming this expansion.
    Well yeah, we all know that Male Viera are complete, we all saw the trailer, Im sure most of us watched the showcase, and have talked about it extensively XD
    Just, now realizing they never stated Female Hrothgar Arn't coming this Expansion, but they said "Don't worry, they are coming" That line of dialogue is thought provoking :0
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  5. #2335
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    Quote Originally Posted by Zanarkand-Ronso View Post
    Well yeah, we all know that Male Viera are complete, we all saw the trailer, Im sure most of us watched the showcase, and have talked about it extensively XD
    Just, now realizing they never stated Female Hrothgar Arn't coming this Expansion, but they said "Don't worry, they are coming" That line of dialogue is thought provoking :0
    I thought you were hinting at female Hrothgar also being completed.

    Releasing them during the expansion would be cool for players, but they'd miss out on adding that juicy New Race tag next expansion. So, we'll see I guess?
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  6. #2336
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    Quote Originally Posted by Yencat View Post
    I thought you were hinting at female Hrothgar also being completed.

    Releasing them during the expansion would be cool for players, but they'd miss out on adding that juicy New Race tag next expansion. So, we'll see I guess?
    ?.....Im not hinting anything at all, Im saying I noticed the lack of clarity or any mentioned if Female Hrothgar are coming THIS Expansion or Not.
    There is plenty they could do to advertise and sell 7.0, you dont need a race to sell an expansion, stormblood was released and sold just fine without a new playable race.
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  7. #2337
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    Quote Originally Posted by Zanarkand-Ronso View Post
    ?.....Im not hinting anything at all, Im saying I noticed the lack of clarity or any mentioned if Female Hrothgar are coming THIS Expansion or Not.
    There is plenty they could do to advertise and sell 7.0, you dont need a race to sell an expansion, stormblood was released and sold just fine without a new playable race.
    I'm not arguing with you, you bolded that part so I thought that's what you were getting at, not sure why you're being defensive.

    Yes, they haven't said one way or the other so maybe they'll come this expansion, and maybe they won't.

    Great talk.
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  8. #2338
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    Quote Originally Posted by Yencat View Post
    I'm not arguing with you, you bolded that part so I thought that's what you were getting at, not sure why you're being defensive.

    Yes, they haven't said one way or the other so maybe they'll come this expansion, and maybe they won't.

    Great talk.
    Defense? Lol Im just confused cause I dont see how I hinted at anything in my post when I was just quoting something. So I just feel like something is lost in translation here.
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  9. #2339
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    Aurelie Moonsong
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    Quote Originally Posted by Zanarkand-Ronso View Post
    ?.....Im not hinting anything at all, Im saying I noticed the lack of clarity or any mentioned if Female Hrothgar are coming THIS Expansion or Not.
    There is plenty they could do to advertise and sell 7.0, you dont need a race to sell an expansion, stormblood was released and sold just fine without a new playable race.
    They have, in at least one interview, used 7.0 as the hypothetical date that both races would be held until if they were released together.

    Perhaps it was oddly translated but the wording as I recall it was something like "we could have waited until, say, 7.0" – definitely the "say" but to make it sound vague, but at the same time it seems a specific and logical time that they might normally be releasing new races.
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  10. #2340
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    Quote Originally Posted by Iscah View Post
    They have, in at least one interview, used 7.0 as the hypothetical date that both races would be held until if they were released together.

    Perhaps it was oddly translated but the wording as I recall it was something like "we could have waited until, say, 7.0" – definitely the "say" but to make it sound vague, but at the same time it seems a specific and logical time that they might normally be releasing new races.
    Ill need to do my own research, Im mostly just going off of the presentation at the showcase, and then a few possibly; obviously clickbait article titles.
    Dont particularly subscribe to the idea that they would save FemHroths for 7.0 as an expansion seller, but moreso to take the proper amount of time to make them the best they can, and to 'possibly' address other issues at the same time as they play catchup on Righting some Wrongs.
    Its all just ideas in my head atm. Be nice to get some concrete answers somewhere, if not directly from the Devs.
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