Female Hrothgar as a playable race. Show your support!

[Fukuro]

making both genders of a single race would have pissed off an entire LARGE group of players, they chose to split the difference and chose the option that satisfied the most amount of people.

oh nice can i see the statistics you have got this information from, that proves your argument?

[Kaedan]

oh nice can i see the statistics you have got this information from, that proves your argument?

I don't have any and don't need any, because in this case, it only involves the groups complaining about/demanding races. So we can use the forums, which you all like to cite anyway.

And looking at the "likes" and various voting around, the number of people who wanted Viera in any form are MUCH larger than the people who wanted a Beast race. So, if Yoshida had only made male and female Hrothgar, they would have pissed off that GIGANTIC group of people.

Conversely, while the Viera group is larger than the Beast race group, it's still not a small group (several thousand vocalized at least). So if they had made male and female Viera, that group would have been pissed off.

So by making one of each, they satisfy both groups. Not fully, of course, but that would have been impossible anyway. Like I said, they did the best they could with a lose-lose situation.

[Halivel]

I don't have any and don't need any, because in this case, it only involves the groups complaining about/demanding races. So we can use the forums, which you all like to cite anyway.

And looking at the "likes" and various voting around, the number of people who wanted Viera in any form are MUCH larger than the people who wanted a Beast race. So, if Yoshida had only made male and female Hrothgar, they would have pissed off that GIGANTIC group of people.

Conversely, while the Viera group is larger than the Beast race group, it's still not a small group (several thousand vocalized at least). So if they had made male and female Viera, that group would have been pissed off.

So by making one of each, they satisfy both groups. Not fully, of course, but that would have been impossible anyway. Like I said, they did the best they could with a lose-lose situation.

I think, in case with one "full" race (doesn't matter which one) the reaction would be different actually. People then would simply continue to ask about other option in way "pleeeease?". It would be persistent, yes, but without outrage which we had right after Tokyo fanfest. Can't say for sure, though.

[LaylaTsarra]

I think, in case with one "full" race (doesn't matter which one) the reaction would be different actually. People then would simply continue to ask about other option in way "pleeeease?". It would be persistent, yes, but without outrage which we had right after Tokyo fanfest. Can't say for sure, though.

It appears the development team wanted to make Hrothgar. Sorry but a full Hrothgar race would have made a lot more people unhappy in my opinion. Viera was definitely something a lot of people wanted so they catered to that group. They've as much said this if I'm not mistaken so I'm not sure where the debate is.

[Duskane]

Not sure what you're talking about, as your response doesn't make any sense in regard to my post.

Are you referring to the fact that they might make the missing genders in the future? Yes, that's true. But they might also not be able to, so he's not promising anything.

The fact of the matter is they were only able to make a single male and single female race, and since making both genders of a single race would have pissed off an entire LARGE group of players, they chose to split the difference and chose the option that satisfied the most amount of people.

i can guarantee if they had just released hrothgar or viera with both genders would not have been such a big deal as it is now

people did want a beast like race but most of them also figured the dream is dead just with how ff14 is made and would have moved on
if we got Hrothgar we would have gotten a wheres viera thread and would have moved on and migrated back to the viera support thread

[LyraKuroneko]

I don't have any and don't need any, because in this case, it only involves the groups complaining about/demanding races. So we can use the forums, which you all like to cite anyway.

And looking at the "likes" and various voting around, the number of people who wanted Viera in any form are MUCH larger than the people who wanted a Beast race. So, if Yoshida had only made male and female Hrothgar, they would have pissed off that GIGANTIC group of people.

Conversely, while the Viera group is larger than the Beast race group, it's still not a small group (several thousand vocalized at least). So if they had made male and female Viera, that group would have been pissed off.

So by making one of each, they satisfy both groups. Not fully, of course, but that would have been impossible anyway. Like I said, they did the best they could with a lose-lose situation.

While it's true. Just saying it's gender lock isn't the smartest choice either. Especially while teasing it may be not genderlock at 1st. Saying something like "now it's lock and maybe unlock later, but it's not certain" would have been better. It may have turn thing a little differently.
But people like to yell at everything too so I wouldn't be betting on it.

[Seraphor]

i can guarantee if they had just released hrothgar or viera with both genders would not have been such a big deal as it is now

people did want a beast like race but most of them also figured the dream is dead just with how ff14 is made and would have moved on
if we got Hrothgar we would have gotten a wheres viera thread and would have moved on and migrated back to the viera support thread

But...

If we had just got Viera, we'd never see Hrothgar.
If we had just got Hrothgar, we'd have never seen Viera.
By getting one of each and causing this backlash, we have a real chance of unlocking the other gender for each race in 6.0

Therefore this decision was more beneficial for the future of the game as a whole.

[Kaedan]

i can guarantee if they had just released hrothgar or viera with both genders would not have been such a big deal as it is now

people did want a beast like race but most of them also figured the dream is dead just with how ff14 is made and would have moved on
if we got Hrothgar we would have gotten a wheres viera thread and would have moved on and migrated back to the viera support thread

Sorry, but I'm calling BS on this. With the concept art released of Viera a long time back, as well as Fran appearing in the raid content, there would have been fire and brimstone raining down on these forums far worse than anything that has happened for lack of genders.

[silverlunarfox]

I love viera, but I agree, +1

[Claymore65]

I fully support the Request for Female Hrothgar/Ronso. I think they would offer a really unique Character Creation Option that a lot of players would enjoy.