Female Hrothgar as a playable race. Show your support!

[zeylos]

So gald this thread is finally back omg

I really think female hrotgar will literally be female roe with a different head and no helms possibly. Also, that different ehad will probs be a male hrot's with eyelashes and a few tweaks

[SturmChurro]

So gald this thread is finally back omg

I really think female hrotgar will literally be female roe with a different head and no helms possibly. Also, that different ehad will probs be a male hrot's with eyelashes and a few tweaks

The image your post put in my mind. I'm just imagining a male hrothgar fluttering his eyelashes.

[Zanarkand-Ronso]

It's not just the appearance but the movements and such too. A little hunchback means nothing because unlike the charr, the hrothgar can't run on all fours and the feet wouldn't even be good for that. And really the roegadyn females are not even close to the musculature the male roegadyns have, not even close and most importantly for every masturbator, of course if they make them they are going to have boobs because if they don't, then it's going to be like GW2 where there's 1 female charr for every 1000 male charr (and that 1 in 1000 is propably too much, maybe 1 in 10000).
Of course i don't believe they are going to update all the animations on the male ones so, Yeah... not going to make one again.

Ah yes thanks for reminding me that the Charr go quadrupedal in their running animation., that does give more purpose to the hunch. I actually really hate that we dont have Hind leg Glamour options besides like maybe the Moogle feet and the Holloween (2018?) Werewolf feet. Course if we did then we'd be demanding Hind leg friendly attire. As much as Id love it, I dont know if its possible with this game, and I dont 100% know if Id be ok with sacrificing footwear fullstop.

What I like and want out of the FemRoe body is the Taller and more Bulky look of them compared to all other Female Counterparts. Naturally they aren't gonna be as masculine as the Males, but thats not the point, they point is that they are strong-looking female avatars.
From what Ive seen on the Charr the Males are more popular, but it isn't because of the lack of a bust on females, its just that the males were designed alot better and look like intimidating warriors and Warlocks compared to the females who look abit more delicate by comparison.
Even if a maleRoe is much 'bigger' then a FemRoe, at least to me a FemRoe looks like they could take on the Males. That might just be me though.

. And really the roegadyn females are not even close to the musculature the male roegadyns have, not even close and most importantly for every masturbator.

Im sorry but help me out here, what does this mean? ^_^;

[Zanarkand-Ronso]

I'd honestly rather them edit the male bodytypes to look more feminine than take the femroe body type (which is just a wide hyur female that already doesn't match their stumpy-legged, 90% shoulder, meat-cube counterparts).
Lengthen the legs, widen the hips, narrow the shoulders, make the neck a bit more slender, and make the head a bit larger, and if they get human-like breasts, give them wide, but relatively shallow breasts to further differentiate them from our other, more busty musclegirls (And also make the slumped posture a bit more.. comfortable). Give them facial features that are a bit more triangular instead of square and it'd be perfect for me.

The females I think might end up with more Angular Muzzles compared to the males, but I hope not so much that they might look delicate and they have to give them a Smaller delicate 'waifu' body. I want them and believe they should have tall and strong statures, like an Amazoness.
In my mind trying to morph the male body the way you described just makes them look like the female would come out a little gross and Overly muscular with delicate faces. A bit bottom heavy to. If I could see the image in your head maybe id have a different opinion.

[Tsaranoga]

........it doesn't Lol.
I mean, thats a Bonus for some...but it shouldn't be the GOAL, this isn't some Korean MMO where Sex Appeal is a central focus of character design.
When I first beta tested this game years ago my first choice and OG creation was in fact a FemRoe. And it wasn't for.....self-gratifying reasons, I just thought they looked badass and wanted to play a badass tall strong female character., I want that same feeling when I look at a FemHroth.

I dont think the Hrothgar Females need to be "Pretty" and "Waifu" to get attention.
They need to look badass and cool.

But sex appeal is an obsession collectivly for all humanity, you can deny it but it is what it is, because for some unfathomable reason it sell well. So for the sweet profit it IS the goal. I'm not saying all players do it but the companies that make games, books and movies, any kind of story really. They do it for the sweet, sweet gains.

[MikkoAkure]

........it doesn't Lol.
I mean, thats a Bonus for some...but it shouldn't be the GOAL, this isn't some Korean MMO where Sex Appeal is a central focus of character design.
When I first beta tested this game years ago my first choice and OG creation was in fact a FemRoe. And it wasn't for.....self-gratifying reasons, I just thought they looked badass and wanted to play a badass tall strong female character., I want that same feeling when I look at a FemHroth.

I dont think the Hrothgar Females need to be "Pretty" and "Waifu" to get attention.
They need to look badass and cool.

If that was the case, then au ra women wouldn’t have been petite little waifus with idol emotes. The original concepts of them looked like normal female equivalents of the males.

Not saying this will happen to the hrothgar as well, but there’s precedence and ignoring it or using your personal beliefs to justify the potential future decisions of the devs is a little naive.

[Zanarkand-Ronso]

But sex appeal is an obsession collectivly for all humanity, you can deny it but it is what it is, because for some unfathomable reason it sell well. So for the sweet profit it IS the goal. I'm not saying all players do it but the companies that make games, books and movies, any kind of story really. They do it for the sweet, sweet gains.

Im not denying people like it or that is doesn't sell, Im saying its not a necessity TO sell.
Besides HIGH Endgame Glamour in SB and ShB and a Very Small amount of characters, as well as ONE /pose emote, XIV doesn't push Sex appeal

If that was the case, then au ra women wouldn’t have been petite little waifus with idol emotes. The original concepts of them looked like normal female equivalents of the males.

Not saying this will happen to the hrothgar as well, but there’s precedence and ignoring it or using your personal beliefs to justify the potential future decisions of the devs is a little naive.

That is a different case not similar to this.
This is a literal Beast Race that has no Concept art to give us an direction or an idea of how they would look IF they are even were ever gonna be put into XIV. The Au-ra are not a beast race, (they almost were according to that old concept art) and have had concept art pitching possible ideas of how they would look, and they decided on something else in the end. So far the concept of Female Hrothgar do not face the possibility of this, so all we can do is make predictions and theories.
Plus just like the Male Viera Thread, people will push personal ideas on how they would Want them to look.

Im not sure what Im 'Ignoring' by saying sex appeal doesn't need to be the Goal to sell something.
And I am applying my Personal Beliefs to how Id like them to look that would be an instant seller for Me, and that would be that the Hrothgar Females should look Badass and Cool. And this opinion is shared with a number of others in this thread.

[Tsaranoga]

Given the size of the internet, Im gonna make a safe bet and say theres probably a lot of FemCharr r34.

Beyond that, its not about 'Make it cutesy waifu status or no one will like it.', but that there has to be some level of Human analog that people will take into account. This means dimorphasism between the races, which means that the males will have certain characteristics that more closely allign them with real life males, and females that will more closely allign them with real life females. In the case of GW2, males were rougher, angular, sharper, bulkier, and more threatening. Females were not as bulky, not as angular, softer rounder edges and less rough. This mirrors the dimorphacism of actual humans overall. Yes there are effeminate males, and masculine females, but those are more outlier than average.

That 'cutesy waifu bait' youre talking about is downstream from designing characters to have more feminine traits that we humans can more easily relate to as being 'female', and is only one iteration as they can go. I mean a fem charr is definitely not as 'cutesy waifu bait' as a typical furry cat girl. And there were quite a few fem charrs when I played. they were by no means a tiny tiny minority.

If r34 is those old internet rule things, then no one is suprised there are people with such a fetish(it was about there being porn of everything, right?). It isn't necessary to make them (if i guess what dimorphasism means) look human at all, since they are supposed to be a beast race. If they wanted they could be as original as the ones making them want, but since original doesn't mean it sells well or that anyone would use them, then you can, of course, just fall back to the good 'ol "waifu". It's a guaranteend success. That's why all the "beast" races are feline because for some unknown reasons it's like a sex symbol, so there will never be anything else.
And humanizing a different race is really stupid anyway but like everything else, just use the easy, old and predictable and it will always be a success.
Well my sub is up so no need to wait for an answer to anything anymore, i don't know if running out of sub means i can't post but i assume it does.

[Melichoir]

If r34 is those old internet rule things, then no one is suprised there are people with such a fetish(it was about there being porn of everything, right?). It isn't necessary to make them (if i guess what dimorphasism means) look human at all, since they are supposed to be a beast race. If they wanted they could be as original as the ones making them want, but since original doesn't mean it sells well or that anyone would use them, then you can, of course, just fall back to the good 'ol "waifu". It's a guaranteend success.
And humanizing a different race is really stupid anyway but like everything else, just use the easy, old and predictable and it will always be a success.
Well my sub is up so no need to wait for an answer to anything anymore, i don't know if running out of sub means i can't post but i assume it does.

Youre playing an MMO set within a fantasy universe with fantasy races based on high fantasy more or less, and youre mad because they share to much with humans for you, with any characteristic that is in the slightest considered feminine being immediate Waifu Bait? Haha Geez, I dunno what to say to that.

Well, I suppose the jokes on you. You paid and put time into a game that had all this upfront and are upset because its not what you wanted? This is like buying a Big Mac and Fry, eating it, then complaining how come it wasnt sushi and how stupid Mickey Ds is for not having sushi on the menu.

[SturmChurro]

Well, you gotta keep in mind a lot of the races are so much like humans because of other issues aside from being attractive. Like animations, fitting gear to the model, etc. Not just an issue with this game either, other games, and even other media have to deal with development costs, time, etc. It can really hamper artistic vision.