Limited Expansion

[Ursa_Vonfiebryd]

Im not actually pleased by the Viera. Not the actual inclusion, mind but the fact that they pretty much look like hyur with ears attached to their hair (I feel they looked more like rabbits in ff12). However I'll save final judgement when I can see all the customization options. Hrothgar too. SE took a huge risk putting in a purely beast race. That's a lot of work making sure current and past gear can even be used, let alone trying to fit certain head pieces on an elongate face or over large ears. I'd rather they put effort into say...accent dyes (the dye ui has had this built in for ages, just not the implemenation) than worry about head gear that may or may not even be logical given the race.

Also whats all this about no Empire in the storyline. The Empire has never left the storyline. Ever. If you're talking about not getting to see Garlemald, I don't mind that being fodder for a future expansion. Am I a little disappointed? Yeah. But not enough to unsub. (Still waiting on Zenos x Zenos nekkid battle).

And god. I'm tired of the whining over BLU. We already have our flavor!mage (RDM). Blue magic CANNOT stand on it's own. It never could. Thats why it was always attached with standard melee/ranged attacks in other FF's (in FF8 it was presented as Limit Break only skills). Here they've chosen to present it exactly as it is: a quirky collection of status/buff/damage incidentals. They are fun to watch and a challenge to take into anything higher than ARR worldmap battles. I've done 90% BLU Extreme Primals and one memorable all-BLU run of Syrcus Tower. If they took the restriction off right now and threw in some of the more powerful BLU spells (like Auto-Life), BLU would still be an incidental job, only taken to high-end because of its buffs/debuffs. What most people are wanting is a full rework and even if they did, people would just call it an RDM clone. I'm happy its here at all. I respect the push back but BLU has always been the odd duck in ANY ff. Is it really worth unsubbing?

[Freyt]

Here they've chosen to present it exactly as it is: a quirky collection of status/buff/damage incidentals.

That's exactly what I like about it.

[Ilan]

So we got the limited job, Blue Mage, which will continue to be limited throughout 5.x.
We got the limited races, Male only Ronso and Female only Viera.
We have limited equipment. Those new races won't even display many helmets within the game.
We have limited fields. No night time. No weather. Or maybe there will be some crazy weather effects; haven't shown it to us though.
It seems the Garlean story line is getting shelved... does that too count as limited?


FFXIV clearly has a limited budget.


I have an idea! Let's make another Eureka for 5.x

At least the pettiness of the western com is limitless. Its something.

[sexythaumaturge]

At this point, it does seem very half-assed. Hope it turns out well.

I feel like people are in an uproar because really, at the end of the day, it's your character's race, animation and 'look' that matters most. People play this game for the story and the social aspect, not the actual gameplay, which is boring beyond belief. It's something you go through to enjoy the rest. And what's wrong with complaining about something you pay a monthly fee for if you don't feel like you're getting your money's worth? Nothing.

[Auryan]

At this point, it does seem very half-assed. Hope it turns out well.

I feel like people are in an uproar because really, at the end of the day, it's your character's race, animation and 'look' that matters most. People play this game for the story and the social aspect, not the actual gameplay, which is boring beyond belief. It's something you go through to enjoy the rest. And what's wrong with complaining about something you pay a monthly fee for if you don't feel like you're getting your money's worth? Nothing.

That is certainly an opinion. Though it is immediately countered by the fact that plenty of people spend an awful lot of time theory crafting for new jobs. Like you know, the whole DNC thing. There are also people that are eager to find out about the next raids and Ultimate. Hell, I'm one of those people who are eager to see the new crafter and gatherer content. Can't wait to see Eureka 2.0 and the full BLU implementation. A lot of passion for "things to go through".

Just because you and other people care little for gameplay (which is odd to me, but hey, it's your time and money), doesnt mean others or more likely, the overwhelming majority, share the same view. Nothing groundbreaking, I know.

[Lambdafish]

Top meme, 10/10

I'm personally far more excited for ShB than I ever was for SB, I'm planning on playing both jobs (depending how they play), and the aesthetic and visuals appeal to me far more than the Asian aesthetic (it's very FF9 to me). I'm also very excited for Hrothgar considering that I felt that races have been bland since the game launched (I wanted beefy dwarves, but I'll take lion man). The community is so fixated on the specifics that they don't have (that only ever existed in blind speculation) that they ignore the stuff we are getting.