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    NatPagle's Avatar
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    Edric Bearson
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    Quote Originally Posted by Neela View Post
    actually I like dancer being range-whatever. and im wondering if that frees the way for a non-mp healer like Alchemist in Final Fantasy Tactics.. throwing potions and buff/debuff elixir could be really smooth in FF14 - and they would absolutely have their own identity : o
    I am in 100% agreement with this. I want the new healer to be super unique have mechanics that actually make sense for healing purposes. Throwing things at enemies to heal your party? Is dancer a by-proxy vampire?

    A non-mp healer would be really cool, and I am definitely on board with Alchemist in this capacity.
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    Ing-Dono's Avatar
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    Dingvar Mavas
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    I would not have been interested in the aesthetic of a dancer healer.

    I just want White Mage to get something that makes it stand out already. What does White Mage currently have? Better MP management? Stronger heals? Yeah lot of good is that going to do you when every piece of content is meant to be beatable with every healer combo.
    Aside from expecting deaths, there is no reason to take a White Mage over the other two healers, and even then, a Red Mage does reviving better anyway.

    So let's see White Mage get their own party utility to play with (or just dealing more damage than the other healers), THEN worry about a new healer.
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    Last edited by Ing-Dono; 03-25-2019 at 05:55 PM.

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    Misutoraru Valkyrie
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    I quite like the idea of dancer is range dps, it is always a buff/debuff role. It fit into dps more than heal role in FFXIV setting.
    However, I quite appreciate if we got a new heal that is not another copy and paste, or I will be most appreciated if they finally sort out the identity crisis, i.e. complete rework of WHM or AST or both
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    Misutoraru Valkyrie
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    Quote Originally Posted by Neela View Post
    actually I like dancer being range-whatever. and im wondering if that frees the way for a non-mp healer like Alchemist in Final Fantasy Tactics.. throwing potions and buff/debuff elixir could be really smooth in FF14 - and they would absolutely have their own identity : o
    Chemist with throwing potion will be epic
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    Huntrss Fairlight
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    There Nothing in Shadowbringers For me Except Level 80. I'm not planning on doing Dancer or Gunbreaker. Then the two new Races don't interest me at all. Just working on the Jobs I have.
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    Kujata
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    Now, personally I'm with the post above me somewhere that I'm more angry that there's no healer rather than dancer being a healer. But the only reason I had to respond to this thread is because of this post that reeks of condescending ignorance.

    Quote Originally Posted by Lambdafish View Post
    Theres a reason for that, melee physical and ranged physical healers aren't a thing, and is something you just made up. Healers are Healers. Ranged physical DPS, Caster DPS, and melee DPS are all designed very differently and do perform different roles that mostly require that role to be taken in order to be competent.
    Really now? They aren't a thing? Made up completely are they? Did you spend the like... 5 minutes on Google it may have taken you to check your lack of information before you spouted your nonsense?

    Melee Healers (Just from my personal experience with MMOs, there are more.)
    Friar [Dark Age of Camelot]
    Warrior Priest [Warhammer Online]
    Disciple of Khaine [Warhammer Online]
    Inquisitor [EQ 2 -- with AAs and such, but still]
    Chanter [AION]

    Here is a forum talking about some of people's favorite Melee healers and the pros/cons of some.
    Something of an oddity for something that doesn't exist, wouldn't you say?
    Here's another one imagine that.

    And to cap off the melee healer section how about I mention The Final Fantasy XI Dancer imagine that... a melee healer and support class in a Final Fantasy game... with the same name of the job that we are discussing shouldn't be a healer.

    Ranged Physical Using Healers
    Tyrande [Heroes of the Storm]
    Ana [Overwatch; Heroes of the Storm] (Who heals with a freaking SNIPER RIFLE I might add)
    Spellslinger [Wild Star]

    I'm sure there are more out there too, do I really need to go on though? I think I've established that these playstyles for healers do, indeed, exist.
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    Last edited by Reiryuu; 03-27-2019 at 02:37 PM.
    "Then what is magic for?" Prince Lir demanded wildly. "What use is wizardry if it cannot save a unicorn?"
    Schmendrick did not turn his head. With a touch of sad mockery in his voice, he said, "That's what heroes are for."
    -- Peter S. Beagle, The Last Unicorn

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    Quote Originally Posted by Reiryuu View Post
    Warrior Priest [Warhammer Online]
    Disciple of Khaine [Warhammer Online].
    These were best played as chalice holding healers, AKA traditional ranged magic healers.
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    Ley Crimsonriver
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    While everyone else is crying over it I'll be playing my dancer
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    Last edited by XenociderOmega; 03-27-2019 at 11:45 PM.

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    Player Neela's Avatar
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    Flower Girl
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    Zodiark
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    Dancer Lv 90
    Quote Originally Posted by XenociderOmega View Post
    While everyone else is crying over it I'll be playing my dancer
    can't wait to see openworld dance-battles in all the citys... they should get a dance-dance-revolution minigame, like bards got their instruments :3
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    Aeliott Cadenza
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    Phoenix
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    Monk Lv 90
    Quote Originally Posted by Cabalabob View Post
    I’d disagree with this. It plays a part in it that people wanted a healer but I think a job that could have been a healer like dancer getting released as a dps made it worse. If it was a different dps like a crossbow or a pistol user that would have been one thing, but it’s the fact it’s a dps that has this possibility to be a healer that really doubles down on the wound.
    I disagree for the same logic though. I think a job that could have been a ranged would be worse, since there are several more options for healer to choose from, but ranged DPS is... actually quite difficult to come up with more things for. Especially without treading on machinists toes with more firearms.
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