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    Tryzn's Avatar
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    Bryzn Himura
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    Leviathan
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    Samurai Lv 80

    Please stop crying that Dancer is a range dps

    One thing about this game is that balance is a thing devs need to keep in mind. The choices of what jobs are coming out are made years in advance. The fact that we got the jobs we did this time was to fill in the voids we are missing. And before anyone says it yes we have 4 tanks, we also have 4 melee Dps. I bet in 6.0 we will get a caster and healer. Also when it comes to healers they are the hardest to balance (no not tanks).
    I’m just tired of seeing all these crying on the forums
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    wereotter's Avatar
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    Antony Gabbiani
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    Faerie
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    Viper Lv 100
    I feel for healer mains who now will go two expansions without a new job. No other type of player has had to wait this long (and I do consider DPS as separate roles, magical, melee, and ranged physical)

    But I do appreciate that dancer is remaining true to its earlier iterations like it was in FFVI and FFT. And I really do hope that healers get a new job sooner rather than later (my hope for this addition is Chemist)

    Additionally this does set the devs up well for future job creation being able to alternate a tank and healer job every expansion and rotate between the three DPS types to release alongside them.
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    Jkap Goat
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    Gilgamesh
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    Weaver Lv 80
    You have 10 DPS to choose from, and they fulfill the same role when they queuing for duty roulette and trials, Dancer could have been a healer that uses range attacks and dances for heals, it would have been something truly unique from the other healers.

    DPS

    4 melee physical, 3 ranged physical, 3 ranged magic

    Healer

    0 melee physical, 0 ranged physical, 3 ranged magic



    A ranged physical healer could have break that mold, IT could have been DANCER, we really need variety among the three healers a final Fantasy XIV and dancer COULD have been just that.
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    Player Dualgunner's Avatar
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    Lilila Lila
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    Coeurl
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    Lot of "could haves".
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    Jkap Goat
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    Thanks, I will be here all week
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    Player Dualgunner's Avatar
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    Lilila Lila
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    Tbh I hate that dancer is a dps too. I wanted the next ranger to be a two pistol user. A practitioner of gun fu. A follower of John Woo. A dual gunner, if you will.

    But nah we're stuck with Axel and now an undefined part of the healer community is erupting with salty rage. *shrug*
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    Jace Ossura
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    Gilgamesh
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    Goldsmith Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by Tryzn View Post
    I’m just tired of seeing all these crying on the forums
    And the best way to solve this is to add to the pile, right?
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    Aeliott Cadenza
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    Phoenix
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    Monk Lv 90
    I don't hate that Dancer is a DPS. I'd argue that it makes a lot more sense than healer.

    I think most people are upset there isn't a healer at all, not that Dancer specifically isn't one.
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    Dingvar Mavas
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    Cerberus
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    Culinarian Lv 70
    I would not have been interested in the aesthetic of a dancer healer.

    I just want White Mage to get something that makes it stand out already. What does White Mage currently have? Better MP management? Stronger heals? Yeah lot of good is that going to do you when every piece of content is meant to be beatable with every healer combo.
    Aside from expecting deaths, there is no reason to take a White Mage over the other two healers, and even then, a Red Mage does reviving better anyway.

    So let's see White Mage get their own party utility to play with (or just dealing more damage than the other healers), THEN worry about a new healer.
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    Last edited by Ing-Dono; 03-25-2019 at 05:55 PM.

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    Khuja'to Binbotaj
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    Hyperion
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    Paladin Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by Jkap_Goat View Post
    You have 10 DPS to choose from, and they fulfill the same role when they queuing for duty roulette and trials
    But they don't fulfill the same role in anything higher. Party composition is 2 tanks/ 2 healers / 2 melee / 1 physical range / 1 magical range. And yes, your party suffers if you change that composition (3 melee particularly doesn't work). Considering the breakdown of 3 tanks / 3 healers / 4 melee / 2 physical ranged / 3 casters, it makes sense why they would want to make dancer physical ranged. Oh and I'm not just speculating, that is literally the reasoning that the devs gave as to why Dancer is the way it is.

    Quote Originally Posted by Jkap_Goat View Post
    Healer

    0 melee physical, 0 ranged physical, 3 ranged magic
    Theres a reason for that, melee physical and ranged physical healers aren't a thing, and is something you just made up. Healers are Healers. Ranged physical DPS, Caster DPS, and melee DPS are all designed very differently and do perform different roles that mostly require that role to be taken in order to be competent.
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    Last edited by Lambdafish; 03-25-2019 at 05:55 PM.

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