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    White Mage + Trance what doyou think if white mage could trance

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    so you guys could know what trance is

    Trance is ability to transform in a being in this game white mage could transform into a elemental. strongly boost their ability to heal and to damage. i mean have huge impact in the game these type of abilities appeared in 6 and 9 watch this game has alot simulory too

    Trance could transform other abilities too more powerful once to safe the risk of button bloat . think it have more intense splash of life to white mage give it more intense and exciting feel. instead just same old same old

    https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachmen.../hqdefault.png this better explain the elemental trance

    white mages hair would reprosant the cherry blossum of flowing leaves. and your body would become essense of life. something like that tell me what ya think

    this is my white mage state
    this is my white mage state thats transcends normal past normal white mage (heaveward. stormblood)
    this me going further beyond (shadow bringers)
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    I like it!

    I don't think that WHM suffers from button bloat, by any means. There is room in their arsenal for more buttons, especially buttons that interact with each other, and offer the WHM more mobility, on top of some sort of ultimate ability like trance.

    In practice, most WHM would use this ability for DPS instead of healing, and I'm okay with that. The general sentiment here is that WHM needs a damage boost, and I don't think a potency change is a long term solution. Giving them a burst phase would make the whm desirable, because they could line it up with other jobs' burst phases (openers and whatnot) for some great output.
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    Quote Originally Posted by tesni_g View Post
    I like it!

    I don't think that WHM suffers from button bloat, by any means. There is room in their arsenal for more buttons, especially buttons that interact with each other, and offer the WHM more mobility, on top of some sort of ultimate ability like trance.

    In practice, most WHM would use this ability for DPS instead of healing, and I'm okay with that. The general sentiment here is that WHM needs a damage boost, and I don't think a potency change is a long term solution. Giving them a burst phase would make the whm desirable, because they could line it up with other jobs' burst phases (openers and whatnot) for some great output.
    I totally agree with you, see trance being very beautiful flashy cause right now cleric stance = balls
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    I don't want to be the one to throw in the reason of lore, but it did pop in to my head first. How exactly would WHM transform, and why should it? I mean WHM already has powerful healing, but healing is useless resource when nobody actually needs it, so I'm not sure this is something the job can use to compete with other healers who already bring a multitude of utility (this is what makes a healer desirable, not damage). If you want to have trance just to DPS then maybe it's just not the right role for you to begin with, but Cleric Stance maybe could be buffed a little. Also trance exists in the game already, SMN's Dreadwyrm Trance, but this isn't an actual transformation just a temporary increase of power.
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    You mean like Trance Terra with new versions of Holy, dual casting and increased HP recovery. IDK because trance seems overpowered since you are literally transforming into a mini primal.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Kurando View Post
    I don't want to be the one to throw in the reason of lore, but it did pop in to my head first. How exactly would WHM transform, and why should it? I mean WHM already has powerful healing, but healing is useless resource when nobody actually needs it, so I'm not sure this is something the job can use to compete with other healers who already bring a multitude of utility (this is what makes a healer desirable, not damage). If you want to have trance just to DPS then maybe it's just not the right role for you to begin with, but Cleric Stance maybe could be buffed a little. Also trance exists in the game already, SMN's Dreadwyrm Trance, but this isn't an actual transformation just a temporary increase of power.
    I want you note the difference between being a primal and and completely givening yourself to light of the elemental and transforming. help with the lore. in shadow bringer adventuring in others worlds. or the change history in the past. story of can take place. if do not remeber the lore of new guardian. thier people were blessed by the light elementals. allowed to live in the twelve wood

    Trance is when white mage fuses with a elemental. body changes they gain enchanced movement speed. both their healing and damage are increased yes but major thing is is the mobility and ability to heal even after your hp is reduced to 0 alot of abilities they have enchaned

    this includes holy. maybe make them have great raid utility by ulterating some of thier skills


    its so post reprosant the mother tree and so transformation were your you become beast like and hair is like fallling leafs
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    Its a primal primal drinks all the aether around you. needing lots of crystals to summon. when you trace its like a adrenaline rush. that changes much of your abilities too more powerful ones. granting you more mobility. to say white mage is not needed for damage its a lie. out the 3 healers thats their job identity. nothing is changes other then your form and shape.

    I agree with giving whm a raid utility but really want to push on this class that does so much damage. that it doesn't need to offer raid ulitity cause insane numbers it should produce. whm should be only second blm when comes to raw spell damage even if its a healer.


    Astra Buffs the party party does damage met the dps check
    white mage does equal that amount of damage without the buffs of astra this includes 5% full team balience damage buff
    that would mean white mage would need have damage equivant 4 other players with astra buff

    Trance would probably grant about 30% damage for 30-60 seconds with effect effect of bonus healing and rapidly movement speed. stones that hit up 60-70k a pop. just small dmg numbers. this could melt a dps check lot faster then astra giving balience too whole team theirs your raid ulitity

    wanna talk about broken lets talk about Astra all day whole lot abilities that need nerfing we dont want to nerf Astra we just need make whm stronger way way stronger
    dont even want get started how broken lightspeed is
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    Quote Originally Posted by CelestaRosa View Post
    wanna talk about broken lets talk about Astra all day whole lot abilities that need nerfing we dont want to nerf Astra we just need make whm stronger way way stronger
    dont even want get started how broken lightspeed is
    I agree that WHM needs a lot more raw power plus some mobility. And that a good WHM in a good group should be doing far and away more damage than an AST or a SCH (because they bring group buffs) in that same group. I don't think LS is broken, though. It's good. It's very good. It looks and feels stronger than the WHM "equivalent" Presence of Mind, because they aren't meant to be the same things.

    Making one class less fun/engaging to play does not make another class more fun/engaging to play

    WHM needs more engagement

    AST isn't broken because it has nice toys, WHM is broken because it doesn't. Giving WHM something like Trance is a step in the right direction--it feels powerful and fun. I think that, at its heart, that's what we all want--for the class to feel powerful and fun, just like every other class in the game has abilities that make them feel powerful and fun.
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    Do you really want me to tell you?

    Do a google image search for "Magical Girl Pretty Bell" "Magical Trance" and that is exactly what the first thing that popped into my head was. [Content may not be safe for work]
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    "Then what is magic for?" Prince Lir demanded wildly. "What use is wizardry if it cannot save a unicorn?"
    Schmendrick did not turn his head. With a touch of sad mockery in his voice, he said, "That's what heroes are for."
    -- Peter S. Beagle, The Last Unicorn