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  1. #261
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    Floortank's Avatar
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    Kaska Onerys
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    Quote Originally Posted by Dualgunner View Post
    Well good for you they're already looking into feedback on this. So what's with all the "They can't be allowed to skate by" stuff?
    That "stuff" has to do with being told to shut up repeatedly when that feedback is being given. Believe it or not, the lack of those genders affects you too.
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  2. #262
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    ErryK's Avatar
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    Ethan Vayne
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    Ragnarok
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    Quote Originally Posted by Kallera View Post
    Hrothgar wasn't even a blip on the fanbase's radar until the glitch involving their name popped up. We were all expecting viera, and both genders was assumed to be a given since we though SE had "known better"
    That wouldn't change anything because they'd have still announced it at JP Fanfest and people would still be posting a thread daily about male Viera.

    Quote Originally Posted by Floortank View Post
    Put aside your own personal politics and biases long enough to see that we're all being screwed.
    I never intended to play female or male Viera, so that's obviously not true.
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    Baby, tell me, what's your motive?

  3. #263
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    Lilila Lila
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    Quote Originally Posted by Floortank View Post
    That "stuff" has to do with being told to shut up repeatedly when that feedback is being given. Believe it or not, the lack of those genders affects you too.
    They're not the ones telling you to shut up, and they already said they're looking into feedback already. So saying they're being allowed to skate by is disingenuous as well.
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  4. #264
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    Quote Originally Posted by ErryK View Post
    I never intended to play female or male Viera, so that's obviously not true.
    It is true, because if you pay them for unfinished crap, pretty soon they'll deliver something you do want, and give it to you half baked. You get what you pay for.
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  5. #265
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    Quote Originally Posted by Dualgunner View Post
    They're not the ones telling you to shut up, and they already said they're looking into feedback already. So saying they're being allowed to skate by is disingenuous as well.
    No, you don't understand. Parts of the community are telling people to shut up and not give feedback. But the whole community is negatively affected by rushed, unfinished features.
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  6. #266
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    Ethan Vayne
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    Quote Originally Posted by Floortank View Post
    It is true, because if you pay them for unfinished crap, pretty soon they'll deliver something you do want, and give it to you half baked. You get what you pay for.
    When it comes to that situation, I'll have something to say. As it is I am paying them for something I want and I am getting what I expected.
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  7. #267
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    Feli Aiko
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    Players request a historically female-only race (as far as being playable), then proceed to get upset about getting said female-only race. [Insert pickachu meme here]

    In all seriousness though, I can see what the devs were going for and they get points for trying. What they should've done, IMO, is announce both races at the second Fanfest, explain their reasoning for the gender exclusivity, and then show off the visuals etc. at the final one. By staggering it (and then neither confirming or debunking the possibility of male Viera at the earliest opportunity) they gave room for players to get overexcited, leading to what we have now.
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  8. #268
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    Reynhart Kristensen
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    Quote Originally Posted by Floortank View Post
    It is true, because if you pay them for unfinished crap, pretty soon they'll deliver something you do want, and give it to you half baked. You get what you pay for.
    Except it's not "unfinished", it's "spreading ressources to not please only one part of the playerbase".
    With male Viera instead of male Hrothgar, those who'd like to play a beast race (Something that doesn't exist right now as opposed to already having cute animal-human characters) would have been screwed. And designing two full races would have taken ressources from something else, meaning that we would have all been screwed with less content, even those who don't care at all about changing races.

    For something that, as said before, is not even content, since it has no impact at all on everything you do in this game. And for those who claim that it's important for RP, It really bugs me how you can do proper RP if you change race and/or sex every time a new flavor comes into the game. Isn't your character supposed to have a background, a family, etc ?
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    Last edited by Reynhart; 03-29-2019 at 11:33 PM.

  9. #269
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    Fayt Azuresky
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    Midgardsormr
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    Rogue Lv 80
    Quote Originally Posted by Reynhart View Post
    Except it's not "unfinished", it's "spreading ressources to not please only one part of the playerbase".
    With male Viera instead of male Hrothgar, those who'd like to play a beast race (Something that doesn't exist right now as opposed to already having cute animal-human characters) would have been screwed. And designing two full races would have taken ressources from something else, meaning that we would have all been screwed with less content, even those who don't care at all about changing races.

    For something that, as said before, is not even content, since it has no impact at all on every you will do in this game. And for those who claim that it's important for RP, It really bugs me how you can do proper RP if you change race and/or sex every time a new flavor comes into the game. Isn't your character supposed to have a background, a family, etc ?
    I have no problem with what we got, but just before anyone snarky comes along, RPers will argue they make alts for new races.
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  10. #270
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    Duskane's Avatar
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    isnt it messed up that goblet is a housing area and not a tiny goblin
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    Dusk Himmel
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    Ravana
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    Viper Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by Reynhart View Post
    Except it's not "unfinished"
    they cant "wear" helmets and will be working on them during ShB that sounds pretty "unfinished" to me
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