The State of Male Character Creation

[Fyce]

Stop comparing the other male races to cartoonishly muscular roes. The males in this game are just varying degrees of ripped. Even if you turn the muscle tone slider down the muscles are the same size just less defined. Lalas don't count they're a joke race.

> Complains about muscular males
> Post a picture of characters with the muscle slider all the way to the top



Yeah, this bad boy must hit the gym at least once... per decade.

[Senn]

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See how thin Alphinaud is?



I think Alphinaud's body type would work out very well for male viera, and I have a feeling would be popular as well. Right now, compared to Alphinaud's body type, the other races are more muscular and in general bigger/broader than his. Personally, what I would like to see is a short and slim male viera, as that is the body type I feel is missing from the other races.

[Tharne]

See how thin Alphinaud is?



I think Alphinaud's body type would work out very well for male viera, and I have a feeling would be popular as well. Right now, compared to Alphinaud's body type, the other races are more muscular and in general bigger/broader than his. Personally, what I would like to see is a short and slim male viera, as that is the body type I feel is missing from the other races.

He's also a teenager...

[Senn]

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So? Male viera would still be adults, just short and slim.
There are short and slim adults irl too you know lol

[Fyce]

See how thin Alphinaud is?



I think Alphinaud's body type would work out very well for male viera, and I have a feeling would be popular as well. Right now, compared to Alphinaud's body type, the other races are more muscular and in general bigger/broader than his. Personally, what I would like to see is a short and slim male viera, as that is the body type I feel is missing from the other races.

That has absolutly nothing to do with my point but okay.
You like the body of a 16 years old elezen. Good for you, I guess.

[Senn]

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Ok, but what I posted is probably what OP was trying to get across to you
a short and slim male body type

[Fyce]

Ok, but what I posted is probably what OP was trying to get across to you
a short and slim male body type

I was just pointing at the dishonesty in picking the most muscular men they could find to complain about the game only having muscular men.
They are intentionally obfuscating the possibility of making a character that most people would consider "normal" (or "fit" at best) to make their point. But since this possibility very much exists, it completly undermine their entire point. That's the perfect recipe to lose all credibility in a second.

Yes, you can't currently make a character with the body of a 16 years old elezen. But it doesn't mean that you can only create muscular characters. That's what they claimed, and it's objectively false.
Just like people pretending that we can't create strong/muscular looking women. We can.

[Senn]

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idk, maybe they found a pic of a hyur on google images and just picked that one
you're taking it too seriously bro

it's just an assumption but even taking the no muscle hyur, op probably means they want something less broader and slimmer than that

edit:
I hit post limit rip
guess that's it for me tonight

edit 2:
you're so extra

Edit: idk man I think you're overreacting just a tiny bit
you have me deceased

[Fyce]

idk, maybe they found a pic of a hyur on google images and just picked that one
you're taking it too seriously bro

it's just an assumption but even taking the no muscle hyur, op probably means they want something less broader and slimmer than that

Of course I'm taking it seriously. How else should I take it? Someone is creating a thread to ask for something while presenting their arguments, the least I can do is to take them seriously. They are presenting flawed/false information, I correct them. That's it.
And if it wasn't mean to be taken seriously, then why posting it at all? That'd be an even greater disservice to what they're asking for... If it's not serious then nobody will bother supporting the idea.

I know what they want, the issue is how they presented their argument to obtain it.
The way you ask for something is as important, if not more than what you're asking for.


Edit: Whatever dude. If you don't agree that not presenting false information when asking for something is important, then I guess we simply don't share the same values.
I simply debunked a false claim that the game only allowed the player to create a muscular male character as presented by the screenshot someone posted. You were the one starting to answer beyond the point by telling me stuff I already knew. Between the two of us, I don't think I'm the one diving too deep into it. They were wrong, and I corrected them. That's it. Don't start arguing if you don't know where you are going :/

[Ramesses]

See how thin Alphinaud is?



I think Alphinaud's body type would work out very well for male viera, and I have a feeling would be popular as well. Right now, compared to Alphinaud's body type, the other races are more muscular and in general bigger/broader than his. Personally, what I would like to see is a short and slim male viera, as that is the body type I feel is missing from the other races.

Can you please leave Alphy out of this...? He's busy saving the world.

I thank you most kindly for your discretion... most kindly.