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    Quote Originally Posted by craybest View Post
    again, lore cna NEVER be a way to limit gameplay, lore should be made to expand it. using lore as a reason to not add something like this is just a cheap excuse, even more if this is just miqo'te race lore all over again, and we know what happened there.
    That doesn't make sense. Of course lore can limit things. You don't see carpenters casting Fire IV.

    Edit: Also the catboy thing is very different, since the lore it not the same, although some parts are similar. Male viera are at least not nearly as friendly overall and quite possible very hostile.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Zsolen View Post
    That doesn't make sense. Of course lore can limit things. You don't see carpenters casting Fire IV.
    that's not lore, that's logic and practicality. there's no story specifically written behind why Carpenters can't use Fire IV. the absence of lore is not lore.

    i don't even care about male vieras, that's just terrible logic.
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    Quote Originally Posted by SendohJin View Post
    that's not lore, that's logic and practicality. there's no story specifically written behind why Carpenters can't use Fire IV. the absence of lore is not lore.

    i don't even care about male vieras, that's just terrible logic.
    It is lore. In no FF game has a CRP just start casting fire on everything nor has male Viera been a playable character or even really seen. It's adds depth to the race as a whole. It gives the female characters story that would not otherwise exist. It is in the lore that males do not reveal themselves to others. You say common sense for Fire IV, but it is also common sense to create a story.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Zsolen View Post
    It is lore. In no FF game has a CRP just start casting fire on everything
    Cid Haze, Final Fantasy 3.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Chasely View Post
    Cid Haze, Final Fantasy 3.
    I wouldn't consider him CRP, but if he was, then there would be more justifucation for CRP casting fire IV, then there would be for playable male viera.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Zsolen View Post
    That doesn't make sense. Of course lore can limit things. You don't see carpenters casting Fire IV.

    Edit: Also the catboy thing is very different, since the lore it not the same, although some parts are similar. Male viera are at least not nearly as friendly overall and quite possible very hostile.
    Hostility is a choice for a sentient being with free will.
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    Quote Originally Posted by MsQi View Post
    Hostility is a choice for a sentient being with free will.
    A "choice" they make after being taught to be just that.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Zsolen View Post
    A "choice" they make after being taught to be just that.
    And people always do what they are taught?
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    Quote Originally Posted by MsQi View Post
    And people always do what they are taught?
    When they are brainwashed, yes.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Zsolen View Post
    When they are brainwashed, yes.
    Ok I win, you are just getting ridiculous. Brainwashing is not some switch you flip. In fact you you are making the case for people rebelling against this society and leaving for a more tolerant one more compelling.
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