Devs, Stick to your guns or remove Viera all together.

[KizuyaKatogami]

Their appearance is fine they live in solitude your not going to become a hulking piece of muscle living like they do. Its also not uncommon for the male of a species to be smaller then the female.

Even Matsuno, the creator of viera said they would be the same height and that they shouldn’t compare them to irl things. They live in solitude yes but we’re also told they go through such intense training that some of the kids don’t even make it out alive.They run through the trees, they’re hunters. They should look much more intimidating than…extremely feminine dudes. At the least they should have masculine options. Even Miqote has that lmao.

[TTiscancer]

Even Matsuno, the creator of viera said they would be the same height and that they shouldn’t compare them to irl things. They live in solitude yes but we’re also told they go through such intense training that some of the kids don’t even make it out alive.They run through the trees, they’re hunters. They should look much more intimidating than…extremely feminine dudes. At the least they should have masculine options. Even Miqote has that lmao.

What? Training doesn't define your facial features, genes do. Neither does it affect your overall size.

[Jandor]

Even Matsuno, the creator of viera said they would be the same height and that they shouldn’t compare them to irl things. They live in solitude yes but we’re also told they go through such intense training that some of the kids don’t even make it out alive.They run through the trees, they’re hunters. They should look much more intimidating than…extremely feminine dudes. At the least they should have masculine options. Even Miqote has that lmao.

They'll probably be about the same height in-game, max height male Viera is taller than min height female Viera. Given most players seem to whack height to max on dudes and min on girls I'd expect the average female Viera will if anything be slightly shorter than the average male Viera.

They're also pretty well defined in the body, not absolutely ripped but anyone expecting muscles on muscles on muscles was always going to be disappointed. They look pretty fit all things considered.

Kinda feminine in the face I guess, but it's not like they defend the forest exclusively with headbutts.

[KizuyaKatogami]

What? Training doesn't define your facial features, genes do. Neither does it affect your overall size.

I wasn’t saying for facial features, moreso the body. Facial features wise i was saying though as they’re described as these fierce warriors who are so dangerous they’ve never been seen yet they literally look almost exactly like the females facial wise. Height wise, they’re supposed to be the same as when growing up, before they hit theirs growth spurt they’re supposed to be identical to the females.

[Lauront]

The only intimidating race is Highlander. They couldn't even get the tiger dudes right. Kimahri looks badass in ff10, the ones we have here look like fluffy kittens. About as intimidating as Pandaren.

I wouldn't say only Highlanders. They got the look of male Au Ra right too. Perhaps not as exotic as some of the concept art had it, but they're convincing in their portrayal of being warriors of the Steppes, or in the case of the Raen, descended from such.

[TTiscancer]

I wasn’t saying for facial features, moreso the body. Facial features wise i was saying though as they’re described as these fierce warriors who are so dangerous they’ve never been seen yet they literally look almost exactly like the females facial wise. Height wise, they’re supposed to be the same as when growing up, before they hit theirs growth spurt they’re supposed to be identical to the females.

What on earth does facial features have to do with being a highly-skilled warrior? That's ridiculous. Go look at pictures of people from the 20s and 30s, even athletes. Before modern nutritional supplements and diets, people looked VERY different.

That being said, it's a fantasy game, stop trying to justify this or that with real-world logic. Let me remind you that we have Lalas killing monsters with axes.

[Theodric]

It may be a fantasy game but if we're meant to take viera men seriously as a threat then it'd be much easier to do so if they weren't running around looking like they were about to step onto a catwalk and enter a fashion show.

Especially when they supposedly live such a reclusive and harsh lifestyle.

[TTiscancer]

It may be a fantasy game but if we're meant to take viera men seriously as a threat then it'd be much easier to do so if they weren't running around looking like they were about to step onto a catwalk and enter a fashion show.

Especially when they supposedly live such a reclusive and harsh lifestyle.

Then don't take them seriously. Do you think anyone takes Lalas seriously? Or flying eyeballs? Or flying pigs? Like... bruh, stop.

[FrogDog]

What on earth does facial features have to do with being a highly-skilled warrior? That's ridiculous. Go look at pictures of people from the 20s and 30s, even athletes. Before modern nutritional supplements and diets, people looked VERY different.

That being said, it's a fantasy game, stop trying to justify this or that with real-world logic. Let me remind you that we have Lalas killing monsters with axes.

People are using real world logic for the heights though lmao. If we use fantasy logic, they’re supposed to be the same height as the females yet they aren’t. They look incredibly feminine and have very little muscles for a race that is supposed to be highly dangerous, fending off intruders and living off the forest and going through such intense training that they die from it. Idk why this is even a debate when the devs themselves said they looked to the playerbase for inspiration and the loud portion of the playerbase is more interested in feminine looking guys than anything.

[TTiscancer]

People are using real world logic for the heights though lmao. If we use fantasy logic, they’re supposed to be the same height as the females yet they aren’t. They look incredibly feminine and have very little muscles for a race that is supposed to be highly dangerous, fending off intruders and living off the forest and going through such intense training that they die from it. Idk why this is even a debate when the devs themselves said they looked to the playerbase for inspiration and the loud portion of the playerbase is more interested in feminine looking guys than anything.

You people have this weird notion about body sizes. Go look at pictures of UFC featherweight fighters and realize that every single one of them would murder a 300kg 2m tall dude with 1 hand.