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  1. #101
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    Quote Originally Posted by HollowedDoll View Post
    The first volume of the official FINAL FANTASY XIV lore books, written and compiled by the FINAL FANTASY XIV development team! This deluxe, full-color, hardcover volume is the definitive guide to the world of the massively popular online game.
    While you have some meta journal that kinda just tells you, hey queue up bucko.
    How in the everliving hell do we have comrades for nabriales? or final steps of faith?
    When the game and the book clash, I go with the game.

    The game could be changed if it was wrong, and the book is written with an out in the first few pages, where it describes itself as a collection of 'histories, legends, fables and folktales.'

    Quote Originally Posted by HollowedDoll View Post
    Also they literally are getting reprinted, so they could change it.
    They could literally change the game text tonight, as they could have done for the past several years. They haven't.
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  2. #102
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    Quote Originally Posted by Jandor View Post
    When the game and the book clash, I go with the game.

    The game could be changed if it was wrong, and the book is written with an out in the first few pages, where it describes itself as a collection of 'histories, legends, fables and folktales.'
    The reference to adventurers seems to exist in english localization only, from what I see.
    Even then the lorebook does mention that we gather companions sometimes, increasingly so in volume 2 (SB), regardless the playerbase at large does not have any bearing on the population which was my original point. It's still a handful of echo pals, not an entire colony of catboys in Limsa.
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  3. #103
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    Quote Originally Posted by HollowedDoll View Post
    The reference to adventurers seems to exist in english localization only, from what I see.
    Well, these are the English language forums. I'd guess most of us are rather ill-equipped to discuss the Japanese version.

    Quote Originally Posted by HollowedDoll View Post
    Even then the lorebook does mention that we gather companions sometimes, increasingly so in volume 2 (SB), regardless the playerbase at large does not have any bearing on the population which was my original point. It's still a handful of echo pals, not an entire colony of catboys in Limsa.
    I'm not asking for major rewrites, just hoping for some minor justifications for the sudden influx of male Viera. Maybe part of the forest burned down, or maybe they've been discussing it and come to the conclusion being semi-exiles in their own home is a poor deal, you know, whatever.
    Player population doesn't have to exactly correspond to what makes some amount of in-world sense, but it's a nice bonus if it does. I've always enjoyed the little bits and pieces here and there that try to reconcile some of the gameplay with some of the world-building and lore.
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    We already have a reason: uptick in war = bunnies falling out of trees. Lorebook says Viera have always been here but only recently have they been leaving their forest in noticeable numbers due to their territories getting caught between Garlemald's war.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Reynhart View Post
    Last time I checked, this is not FF X.

    Let me check...


    Who could have seen that coming ?
    Long story short if a male viera sees you your dead, if you see them your dead. End of the day any outsider that has been lucky enough to see one is dead.
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  6. #106
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    Didn't they say that they were adding a reason lore-wise as to why male Vieras are starting to be seen?

    Also, I thought it was clear that the game's lore/story was one thing, and players being players was another. Not everyone is supposed to be the WoL or a WHM. You aren't supposed to take what other players do, are, or look like as an actual part of your canon.

    But most importantly, why does this even matter so much? (?_?)
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    Last edited by Clover_Blake; 08-11-2021 at 06:24 AM.
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    Quote Originally Posted by NanaWiloh View Post
    Long story short if a male viera sees you your dead, if you see them your dead. End of the day any outsider that has been lucky enough to see one is dead.
    I think that worked better when we were free to speculate that they might look a bit more intimidating than a wet noodle.

    The only thing scary about them at this point is the inevitably high number flooding player led 'venues'.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Theodric View Post
    I think that worked better when we were free to speculate that they might look a bit more intimidating than a wet noodle.

    The only thing scary about them at this point is the inevitably high number flooding player led 'venues'.
    Honestly yeah. Their lore doesn’t really fit their appearance pretty much. The fact they’re shorter than the females is pretty laughable, but the fact they have no masculine face option is even more laughable.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Theodric View Post
    I think that worked better when we were free to speculate that they might look a bit more intimidating than a wet noodle.

    The only thing scary about them at this point is the inevitably high number flooding player led 'venues'.
    The only intimidating race is Highlander. They couldn't even get the tiger dudes right. Kimahri looks badass in ff10, the ones we have here look like fluffy kittens. About as intimidating as Pandaren.
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    Quote Originally Posted by KizuyaKatogami View Post
    Honestly yeah. Their lore doesn’t really fit their appearance pretty much. The fact they’re shorter than the females is pretty laughable, but the fact they have no masculine face option is even more laughable.
    Their appearance is fine they live in solitude your not going to become a hulking piece of muscle living like they do. Its also not uncommon for the male of a species to be smaller then the female. They may not be big but the fact that they can you kill without you ever seeing them. Makes them more dangerous then some tall guy with a muscular body
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    Last edited by NanaWiloh; 08-11-2021 at 08:31 AM.
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