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    Just relax and support the devs

    They never said that these races weren't ever going to be finished. They've accomplished a lot and they work really hard. They are more than aware of people's distaste for gender-locks. I'm sure they don't feel great for leaving them half finished for now. But a compromise was made to add variety. Moreover lets not behave like beasts they never promised male viera.

    Be thankful be supportive! Unsubbing won't help them make your dreams come true.

    Edit: we are very lucky to have a dev team that actually listens to the fanbase. Voice your concerns politely and be patient
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    Quote Originally Posted by programcanaan View Post
    ... they never promised male viera.




    They didn't promise, but they certain lead us to believe. This is the only reason we're disappointed to begin with.
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    Quote Originally Posted by wylantar View Post



    They didn't promise, but they certain lead us to believe. This is the only reason we're disappointed to begin with.
    And if male viera turned out to be something people didn't want or expect people would still be whining.
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    Do not reward them for this badly thought out decision. They've caused countless people to rage quit the game overnight, myself included. They absolutely deserve to be criticized in this instance.
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    Quote Originally Posted by wylantar View Post



    They didn't promise, but they certain lead us to believe. This is the only reason we're disappointed to begin with.
    So, concept art of Male Viera = concrete proof they promised them? Or more like you expected them without any solid declaration from the Dev team?
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    Quote Originally Posted by programcanaan View Post
    And if male viera turned out to be something people didn't want or expect people would still be whining.
    It would be a different kind of whine. I really dislike female Au Ra so I just don't fantasia into them, but I can't fault them for its creation because it's there, and rightly so. I don't like the way male Roes look or some other race-gender combos but it's good that they're there so that people have options.
    And at 2019 gender locks are stupid.

    And support the devs? AFter they took content away for Eureka? After BLU? This isn't a singular incident in a void. I'm not going to undo my preorder but damn if they see a single cent out of me on the MogShop until further notice
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    Quote Originally Posted by redcurrant18 View Post
    Do not reward them for this badly thought out decision. They've caused countless people to rage quit the game overnight, myself included. They absolutely deserve to be criticized in this instance.
    No they don't. They work hard, they have limited resources, and a deadline. Be supportive.
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    The vitriol is a bit much in places but people do have a right to voice their concerns. Likewise as pointed out while they didn't /promise/ Male Viera they did their utmost not to actually deny their probability. A lot of this backlash simply wouldn't be here if they had come out from the start and stated Viera were mono-gendered back in Paris and taken out the lore lines about the males during the Alliance Raid quest line. What is happening now is several months worth of hype, debate, and expectation all being thrown out the window and it's no wonder some people are genuinely upset. Especially when it was such an easy problem to outright prevent in the first place.

    That said I do feel bad for the dev team who had no hand in how the lore or the marketing of fanfest was presented as well as the forum staff. ESPECIALLY the forum staff. I do not envy their job right now as the forum continues to explode.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Barristan View Post
    So, concept art of Male Viera = concrete proof they promised them? Or more like you expected them without any solid declaration from the Dev team?
    Did you even read the comment that went with the image or just ignoring it and slapping your own commentary over it?

    Quote Originally Posted by Barristan View Post
    No, I read it. All I got is "those concept pictures led us to believe in something that was never promised in the first place". And why am I not surprised to see you here crying about it, just like you've cried in every single complaint thread that has been posted since the Keynote ended?

    Do yourself a favor and go to bed; wake up tomorrow and take in all the 5.0 information that is coming, then if that's still not good enough for you, just unsub and save yourself the stress and heartache of not having bunny boys.

    Ah, post limits. Crying? Yeah, grow up.
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    Quote Originally Posted by redcurrant18 View Post
    Do not reward them for this badly thought out decision. They've caused countless people to rage quit the game overnight, myself included. They absolutely deserve to be criticized in this instance.
    If male bunny pixels are all it takes for you to quit, then maybe this game isn't for you. There was *never* any promise of Male Viera and throwing a temper tantrum about it just solidifies the thought in my mind that SE should have just said no when people started asking for Viera in the first place.
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