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    Brutalistica's Avatar
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    Brutalistica Sunlust
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    Quote Originally Posted by programcanaan View Post
    They never said that these races weren't ever going to be finished. They've accomplished a lot and they work really hard. They are more than aware of people's distaste for gender-locks. I'm sure they don't feel great for leaving them half finished for now. But a compromise was made to add variety. Moreover lets not behave like beasts they never promised male viera.

    Be thankful be supportive! Unsubbing won't help them make your dreams come true.

    Edit: we are very lucky to have a dev team that actually listens to the fanbase. Voice your concerns politely and be patient
    Just putting my support for this matter. Gender lock isn't the way because it shows lack of creativity. Please show us your talent on creating male Viera and female Ronso. This will be a good move on your end. Please listen to the fans and you're forever respected. Best of luck on your future decisions d-(^.^)z
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    I'shtola Maqa
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    Work hard? Absolutely, they for sure work long hrs and their butts off.
    But listen to the fans... Blu and now Dancer want a word with you
    I know this thread was moreso about Vierra which i am not certain where i stand.
    Other games have gender locked jobs like Tera for example and honestly do not find it a big deal but must also see other players reasoning and respect that
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    Skaetfyrfolg Drysnyun
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    the only thing that the ffxiv team needs to do is put out a statement saying that they will add male and female counterparts for the viera and the hrothgar respectively, and the outrage will subside.

    gender-locking content is regressive and absurd
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    Barraind Faylestar
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    I'm only suggesting that people get a little more civilized, understanding, patience, etc. Is it really too much to ask for in this day and age?
    Yes. Its how things these days work.

    Post respectfully and quietly? Get shouted down by people who disagree with you.

    You might as well come out of the gate with volume and intensity, because you're fighting the same fight of yelling over the same people going "LOL UR WRONG THIS THING IS THE BEST THING EVER" regardless of the approach you take.


    Look at the absurdity of the big bunny thread after about page 1. It mirrors basically anything on any social media platform these days. (Or the news. Or anything even tangentially related to politics).
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    I think its just, as others have said, something really poorly handled from the publicity side. People have been requesting Viera for....since ARR? And as early as HW I think is when we saw the concept art of the male Viera. Then more recently you have big chunks of lore about the male Viera that all sounded very much like it was being set up as a way of writing them into the world even if they didn't live with the female Viera. I honestly thought, after reading the lore, that they'd make Viera's two factions male and female and split it that way. They did this odd dance of letting people assume based on their tidbits and refusal to say one way or another, only to then pull a switch a roo with a race they'd never even really hinted at. Another genderlocked one at that, though who knows what excuse we'll have for why they have no females around yet don't go extinct.

    Pair that with some general disappointment about the lack of new healers and previous complaints like Eureka and BLU, things do start to compile into irritation that is hard to shake. Having a new healer might have blunted the sting of gender locking or vice versa but they did both and delivered the news at the same time with little to break their own fall. Besides gender locking is just so...regressive and tone deaf. In our game men shall be big strong men and women shall be gorgeous, high heel wearing sex bombs, end of story. None of that is to say they dont work hard...though I will say its got to be way more work to design two separate races with two factions each, and their own lore rather than, ya know, using the lore you have, and making Viera factions the split between male and female. That seems like a much easier task that would have satisfied the player base. I can't honestly think of a good reason why they went the way they did knowing the anger it would cause.
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    Lyra Kuroneko
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    Quote Originally Posted by BroodingFicus View Post
    I think its just, as others have said, something really poorly handled from the publicity side. People have been requesting Viera for....since ARR? And as early as HW I think is when we saw the concept art of the male Viera. Then more recently you have big chunks of lore about the male Viera that all sounded very much like it was being set up as a way of writing them into the world even if they didn't live with the female Viera. I honestly thought, after reading the lore, that they'd make Viera's two factions male and female and split it that way. They did this odd dance of letting people assume based on their tidbits and refusal to say one way or another, only to then pull a switch a roo with a race they'd never even really hinted at. Another genderlocked one at that, though who knows what excuse we'll have for why they have no females around yet don't go extinct.

    Pair that with some general disappointment about the lack of new healers and previous complaints like Eureka and BLU, things do start to compile into irritation that is hard to shake. Having a new healer might have blunted the sting of gender locking or vice versa but they did both and delivered the news at the same time with little to break their own fall. Besides gender locking is just so...regressive and tone deaf. In our game men shall be big strong men and women shall be gorgeous, high heel wearing sex bombs, end of story. None of that is to say they dont work hard...though I will say its got to be way more work to design two separate races with two factions each, and their own lore rather than, ya know, using the lore you have, and making Viera factions the split between male and female. That seems like a much easier task that would have satisfied the player base. I can't honestly think of a good reason why they went the way they did knowing the anger it would cause.
    Most likely, they didn't think about it at all.

    Wouldn't be the 1st time. And not the last as we can see.

    Even if I don't get why they don't take a closer look at people reaction. Musn't be fun to get all the "hate'' each time because of that.
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    Paris Alexus
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    Agree with OP, everyone take a breath and calm down. You have any concern for the devs and their well-being? Or do all of you only care about what you want? Seriously, the selfishness on this forum right now is astounding!
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    I love this thread. Exactly this, I agree with OP.

    Realistically it's the player bases fault for assuming you were getting something and making Headcannon.

    But if you knew what constructive criticism was and not just temper tantrums (and you wonder why NA is ignored, you all are embarrassing and I'm ashamed to be a part of this community) you could probably lead a movement and have them do the classes for later.

    But all these threads are just trashy and immature.

    You have a right to be dissapointed, you have a right to express that. You don't have a right to bully people that don't agree with you and try to trash the dev team.
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    Isavella Jerisfaldar
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    There is no way I would support the devs after what they've done to the Blue Mage fans.
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    Genz Kawakami
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    Quote Originally Posted by programcanaan View Post
    we are very lucky to have a dev team that actually listens to the fanbase. Voice your concerns politely and be patient
    Hello Mr. Dimension Traveller. We're very pleased to welcome you in our dimension, and are very interested in the technology and knowledge you used to break the limit of time and space. Please contact the CERN for further information.
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