Just relax and support the devs

[Jinxie]

They have reversed course before, so the precedent is there. But the constant complaining and whining by this community for a race that they never wanted to add in the first place is just a really, really sad look for this game.

it isn't about what 'they' wanted to add. They held a vote, Viera won. They made Au Ra instead, and the consequence of not listening to the people who are literally paying for their shit, is that we pestered them. Perhaps if they had given the playerbase what they wanted to pay for to begin with would have meant they could have added Au Ra later without backlash for not adding Viera. Perhaps there'd be no backlash now, because they'd have implemented a full race instead of just half-assing two races with lame excuses as for why they're incomplete.

In the end this is a product and we are buyers. It's not about what they want, it's about what WE want.

[Barristan]

it isn't about what 'they' wanted to add. They held a vote, Viera won. They made Au Ra instead, and the consequence of not listening to the people who are literally paying for their shit, is that we pestered them. Perhaps if they had given the playerbase what they wanted to pay for to begin with would have meant they could have added Au Ra later without backlash for not adding Viera. Perhaps there'd be no backlash now, because they'd have implemented a full race instead of just half-assing two races with lame excuses as for why they're incomplete.

In the end this is a product and we are buyers. It's not about what they want, it's about what WE want.

You got Viera. Viera are predominantly female. Go on board the Prima Vista and listen to the rambling speech the traveling performer gives. Or go full bore and look into Viera lore from FFXII or Tactics. That's all the explanation you need.

And if it upsets you so much, then by all means, unsub. And in case you don't remember, after Au Ra were introduced, SE said no more races, but like you said, the player base badgered them to death for the one race that is traditionally gender locked, then feign disgust and anger when said race is introduced..and is gender locked.

[Jinxie]

You got Viera. Viera are predominantly female. Go on board the Prima Vista and listen to the rambling speech the traveling performer gives. Or go full bore and look into Viera lore from FFXII or Tactics. That's all the explanation you need.

And if it upsets you so much, then by all means, unsub. And in case you don't remember, after Au Ra were introduced, SE said no more races, but like you said, the player base badgered them to death for the one race that is traditionally gender locked, then feign disgust and anger when said race is introduced..and is gender locked.

Somehow Male miqo'te (particularly keepers) exists with the SAME lore rules (much rare! So hidden! GASP) attached. Dont you bark that nonsense at me. If they can make it work for one race, then they cannot use it as an excuse to prevent another.

You mean the pole that asked "a race LIKE Viera" and people took it and ran with "OMG THEY ASKED IF WE WANTED VIERA!" and pushed a completely incorrect notion that perpetuates even to this day.

You're right, they didn't specifically SAY viera. However, SE controls what they put out to us. They literally have the power to show us or not show us whatever they wish. They showed us viera. Bunny people. If they didn't want people to make that connection they should not have depicted it as such with their concepts.

If you dont want to put your foot in your mouth, then dont set yourself up to do just that. (in regards to SE, not you.)

[JunseiKei]

it isn't about what 'they' wanted to add. They held a vote, Viera won. They made Au Ra instead, and the consequence of not listening to the people who are literally paying for their shit, is that we pestered them. Perhaps if they had given the playerbase what they wanted to pay for to begin with would have meant they could have added Au Ra later without backlash for not adding Viera. Perhaps there'd be no backlash now, because they'd have implemented a full race instead of just half-assing two races with lame excuses as for why they're incomplete.

In the end this is a product and we are buyers. It's not about what they want, it's about what WE want.

You mean the poll that asked "a race LIKE Viera" and people took it and ran with "OMG THEY ASKED IF WE WANTED VIERA!" and pushed a completely incorrect notion that perpetuates even to this day.

Source: http://forum.square-enix.com/ffxiv/threads/46936

Quote:

Mammalian demi-beastmen (ex. a rabbit-eared race such as the Viera from FFXII, etc.)

Yes. Au Ra still wasn't that mammalian demi-beast race that actually won the vote. Point is, it wasn't Viera that is so often misquoted as you have just done.





But hey, paying customers complained, so they are right. Cater to them!

[programcanaan]

I'm not sure how you can support them for making a bad decision... and this IS a bad decision. Races should not be gender locked in any game.

Be patient be diplomatic it's all we can and should do. The devs deserve far better than the hostile behavior going around. They probably feel bad enough already and people are just salting the wound.

They will add them eventually if the demand is there. It is not set in stone.

[kidalutz]

Bottom line is people arent happy unless they're unhappy. Frankly I'm just happy to be able to play this game.

[Anzaman]

Honestly it'd probably be better if they'd give zero hints at all about what future content might bring when looking at some of posts around.

[Tempest222]

Game developers aren’t toddlers. It’s not the customers responsibility to hold their hands and praise every decision they make and support everything they do unconditionally. Being upset over a development choice is not a personal attack on anyone. People are paying for entertainment and are entitled to voice their opinions and criticisms over said choices. If someone is so disappointed over the gender lock that they choose to quit the game, that’s valid and it’s their prerogative. No one is obligated to keep paying for entertainment that for whatever reason is no longer bringing them joy. Paying for a product you are unhappy with while hoping silently that your monetary support will go towards future changes is ridiculous.

Also thus forum literally reads just like forums of every other game when the developers make.... controversial(poor) design choices. Every game community is the same in the end lol.

[Miste]

When they ignore your favourite role for 4 years, and will be going on 6 years after 5.0 ends...you kinda can't support the devs anymore.

I mean...maybe they have a healer reveal up their sleeves, but I'm not gonna hold my breath for it. If it happens then great, they proved they deserve my support, but if not?

It seems to me like they gave up on healers and had 4 years to try to fix healing issues or rework things and failed to do anything about it.

So here we are 4 years later and still no new healer; while DPS have gotten 3 more jobs since HW and Tank finally got one as well. If they don't add a healer in 5.0 at all then it'll be 6 years ignoring their fans who enjoy healer roles.

Seems kind of ridiculous considering the amount of time they have had to deal with healer problems and actually DO something about healer balance issues (coughWHMcough), and do any changes that needed to be done to make sure us healers supporting this game could get new jobs as well.