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    Jinxie's Avatar
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    Wreath Moonpath
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    Do not give developers excuses for bad decisions! Stop giving them slack for mistakes! This facilitates them for FUTURE mistakes because 'it was ok once'. 'they didn't seem to mind too much' As long as people defend them blindly, they will keep pushing the limits of what is and isn't acceptable. hold them ACCOUNTABLE when they pull this nonsense.
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    Quote Originally Posted by programcanaan View Post
    Be thankful be supportive! Unsubbing won't help them make your dreams come true.
    Game companies hear money more clearly than forum posts. It's a sensible thing to do. I'm not personally unsubbing over this -- the rest of the announcements were far too beautiful and inspired to do that -- but I definitely understand the folk who do. They're mad. They're insulted. Gotta empathize. Can't ask folk to feel differently than folk feel. They just feel.
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    Consumer feedback is critical for improving any product. White knights defending flawed games permit the devs to be complacent, contributing to a game's compounding problems. You've already seen this play out with the bloating of the cash shop, the glamour situation, and the crushing pressure of inventory management. If you love a game, you need to feel free to let the devs know when they've made a mistake. White knights, on the other hand, kill good games.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Twinsoul View Post
    Game companies hear money more clearly than forum posts. It's a sensible thing to do. I'm not personally unsubbing over this -- the rest of the announcements were far too beautiful and inspired to do that -- but I definitely understand the folk who do. They're mad. They're insulted. Gotta empathize. Can't ask folk to feel differently than folk feel. They just feel.
    Perhaps they could learn to feel without torches and pitchforks.
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    Xoria Tepes
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    Quote Originally Posted by Eleken View Post
    ...We're paying them a monthly subscription and full price expansions as well as optional payed content like retainers and cosmetics. I seriously don't understand why you think it's wrong for customers to express their dissatisfaction with the content. It's entirely within customers rights, SE has their own PR they don't need fanatical fans that will defend them against any form of criticism.
    Paying a monthly subscription is like paying your landlord. That includes the rights you actually have and don't have, and rights you think you have, but actually don't.
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    9.23.2019 [11:15 p.m.]Total Play Time: 1552 days, 0 hours, 0 minutes - You'll be hard-pressed to find a more cynical person than me.
    Quote Originally Posted by Odstarva View Post
    You people are never happy.
    [...] You complain and complain and complain.

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    Ranko Kurosuki
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    Imagine quitting the game (or just threatening to quit the game, since I doubt they're going to do it anyway) over cosmetics.
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    Quote Originally Posted by rance-sama View Post
    Imagine quitting the game (or just threatening to quit the game, since I doubt they're going to do it anyway) over cosmetics.
    People who actually quit the game over this aren't quitting just over this. It's typically a bunch of stuff and this is just the final straw.

    And that's their decision, as a paying customer.
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    I can relax no problem. Don't have to support them though.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Rein_eon_Osborne View Post
    Healing DRK is literally... the same since ShB. The reason why people think it's a meme to heal nowadays because DRK receives very little to no buff to their sustainability vs 3 other tanks getting something useful. If you're capable of healing DRK back in ShB (or any tanks), then you'll heal EW DRK just fine.

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    I'm not sure how you can support them for making a bad decision... and this IS a bad decision. Races should not be gender locked in any game.
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    Keaira Tieraal
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    Quote Originally Posted by Burningskull View Post
    I'm not sure how you can support them for making a bad decision... and this IS a bad decision. Races should not be gender locked in any game.
    They have reversed course before, so the precedent is there. But the constant complaining and whining by this community for a race that they never wanted to add in the first place is just a really, really sad look for this game.
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    Lho Polaali
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    Quote Originally Posted by Barristan View Post
    They have reversed course before, so the precedent is there. But the constant complaining and whining by this community for a race that they never wanted to add in the first place is just a really, really sad look for this game.
    Developers: we do not want to add this to the game
    paying customers: please add this to the game
    you: how dare you.
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