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    Player
    Rastaban's Avatar
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    Asel Mesarthim
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    Phoenix
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    if the comunity asks for a new race im definitly sure for both sex not only female or male yes we waited for more then 2 years but never thought that yoshi would come with a gender lock option and presenting it like its realy normal and common we are in 2019 and we dont realy care about the lore, like the did it for the miqote male now the male miqote is everywhere so comming with cheap excuse '' they dont fit the lore '' is the most unbelieveable funny think i was shocked when i saw the forum with gender lock topics and searched youtube and forums im realy dissapionted we never asked for gender lock and SE promised for never ever gender locks in future
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    Deceptus Keelon
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    Sage Lv 90
    Quote Originally Posted by programcanaan View Post
    They never said that these races weren't ever going to be finished. They've accomplished a lot and they work really hard. They are more than aware of people's distaste for gender-locks. I'm sure they don't feel great for leaving them half finished for now. But a compromise was made to add variety. Moreover lets not behave like beasts they never promised male viera.

    Be thankful be supportive! Unsubbing won't help them make your dreams come true.

    Edit: we are very lucky to have a dev team that actually listens to the fanbase. Voice your concerns politely and be patient
    The SE dev team has proven over the last 5 years they don't truly listen to the playerbase. They implement most things exactly like they want to then hotfix it after it becomes the often predicted fiasco.

    Respectful criticism is always better than negativity, but let's not white knight and have blind faith in developers who have a history of screwing up a LOT.

    The meme phrase "You're not playing it right" exists for a reason.
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    Veteran healers don't care if we need to heal, but right now we don't. We want interesting things to do during the downtime other than a 30s dot and a single filler spell that hasn't changed from lvl 4 to lvl 90.
    Dead DPS do no DPS. Raised DPS do 25/50% lower DPS. Do the mechanics and don't stand in bad stuff.
    Other games expect basic competence, FFXIV is pleasantly surprised by it. Other games have toxic elitism. FFXIV has toxic casualism.[/LIST]

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    J'talhdi Belhi
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    This is silly. The devs do have perfectly valid reasons for doing what they did even if people don't agree with it. However, as long as it is polite, giving feedback is important and more to the point, as consumers, players are completely entitled to vote with their wallets if it is something they feel strongly enough about.

    Unhappy people should be polite and detailed in their feedback but if it is enough for them to no longer want to play FF14 that is their choice and people shouldn't be telling them to do any different. The devs need to provide a product the consumers want and if they cant do that the consumers should look elsewhere until the product becomes appealing again.
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    Ayer Austen
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    Why would I support the devs when they are making decisions to dont agree with. I tend to not blindly support anything.
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    X'lota Qi
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    Bard Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by programcanaan View Post
    Be thankful be supportive! Unsubbing won't help them make your dreams come true.
    What will make their "dreams come true"? These people are upset that (using your terminology) their dreams did not come true, and this happened while they were subbed. These people are being more logical then those just telling them to "shut up, accept it and keep paying"

    On the other hand it is quite possible they are only bluffing, to that I cite ye olde interwebs adage "pic or it didn't happen".
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    Videra Svenay
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    Purchase Product. Consume. Do not express discontentment.
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    Anni Suri
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    Rogue Lv 80
    I think what the OP meant is more within this lines: purchase the product, consume and express our content too not only discontentment because the negativity in the forums after each change decision if is not well managed in the correct way isn't beneficial neither for the devs team neither for the community.

    One thing we all should be aware is the way we express our opinions about their work can motive or demotivate the team at this point I am not sure how they didn't give up on the MMO yet.

    It is easy just imagine yourself at your workstation doing what you know best and receiving constant destructive criticism not well structured or even without being justified, in a daily basis.

    ▲ No I am not a sycophant myself but just asking if you can take a few seconds of your life to put yourself in devs team situation.▲
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    Last edited by AnnaRosa; 06-01-2019 at 10:17 PM.

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    Aisha Starglow
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    We shouldn't support every decision the devs make. I dont' support the new races, and I firmly believe they should only stick to one with both genders. Once the mssing genders come, there will most likely be some few ppl who will be upset because they have a thing for female/male only races, and they'll have all their rights not to support that decision
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    DumdogsWorld's Avatar
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    W'kohrahx Tia
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    I dunno. I must be unusual in that I care more about what I would lose than what I would fail to gain.

    I mean, yes there are limits. If no new expansion was ever released, I would quit because the game would get boring. But in situations where a feature I wanted fails to be delivered to me, I just stick with what I have in the game and shrug it off.

    No male viera? It's disappointing, but it's not like my current race is going away.

    Square Enix would be crossing the line if they decided to re-lock the Miqote and Roe races based on gender.
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    Grimnir Greywolfe
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    Balmung
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    Dark Knight Lv 90
    Quote Originally Posted by redcurrant18 View Post
    Do not reward them for this badly thought out decision. They've caused countless people to rage quit the game overnight, myself included. They absolutely deserve to be criticized in this instance.
    I'm fairly certain there hasn't been that many that have quit playing because of this. Is definitely a small minority as most want to support the game and foster the development of the missing races. You do what you think is best for you, but less money in their budget isn't going to bring the other genders to fruition. In fact, it may cut the chances down if enough people did quit over it. As stated many times before, the devs only have so many resources they can utilize. And as it stands right now it sounds like they are attempting to figure out a way to overcome the obstacles that stand in the way of female Hrothgar and male Viera. So have patience and try to be understanding. New assets are not made overnight.
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