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    Thinking back to this and the question of Amdapor having Sin Eaters, I reckon it may not be entirely farfetched that the First has been slowly flooding for eras now. It might also explain why it's taking the Derplander all his strength to defeat the Kuribu in the trailer, the one summoned into Amdapori times was far weaker as the Flood of Light in the First was less widespread, but now it covers most of the first and as such Kuribu are much more powerful. It may also explain the power differential between the Amdapori Lion and the Holy Cow, the Holy Cow was (likely inadvertently) summoned into Eureka much more recently and as such it kind is much stronger than it was in the days of Amdapor.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Yuriane View Post
    Thinking back to this and the question of Amdapor having Sin Eaters, I reckon it may not be entirely farfetched that the First has been slowly flooding for eras now. It might also explain why it's taking the Derplander all his strength to defeat the Kuribu in the trailer, the one summoned into Amdapori times was far weaker as the Flood of Light in the First was less widespread, but now it covers most of the first and as such Kuribu are much more powerful. It may also explain the power differential between the Amdapori Lion and the Holy Cow, the Holy Cow was (likely inadvertently) summoned into Eureka much more recently and as such it kind is much stronger than it was in the days of Amdapor.
    One thing to be clear on: the things we fought in Amdapor were NOT Sin Eaters. They were golems in the likeness of Sin Eaters. The question being posed is not so much "how did Sin Eaters get into Amdapor?", but rather, "How did the Amdapori know what Sin Eaters look like?".

    The answer to this COULD involve Sin Eaters somehow coming to Amdapor at some point, after which the Amdapori designed Golems to look like them - or it could involve Amdapori peeking into other Shards somehow, or finding records of Allagan research into creating high concentrations of Light, or accidentally spawning Sin Eaters through their own experiments, or any of a number of other possibilities.

    One of the most interesting mysteries regarding Sin Eaters, I think, is that they seem to exist only for a brief time. A Flood of Light leaves nothing, not even Sin Eaters. An unflooded world (presumably) has no Sin Eaters. So these creatures only exist for the period of time when a Flood is imminent or in progress. Are they created from humans and animals, like the Voidsent are? What are their motivations during this brief span of existence? Do they seek to devour Aether, like the Voidsent do? Since the Flood endangers them, as well, are they in favor of stopping it? Or do they want it to continue?
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    Quote Originally Posted by LineageRazor View Post
    One of the most interesting mysteries regarding Sin Eaters, I think, is that they seem to exist only for a brief time. A Flood of Light leaves nothing, not even Sin Eaters. An unflooded world (presumably) has no Sin Eaters. So these creatures only exist for the period of time when a Flood is imminent or in progress. Are they created from humans and animals, like the Voidsent are? What are their motivations during this brief span of existence? Do they seek to devour Aether, like the Voidsent do? Since the Flood endangers them, as well, are they in favor of stopping it? Or do they want it to continue?
    I would say they probably want both to stop the flood but also to maintain it, i even think there is a hierarchy within the sin eaters like the voidsent lesser beings to do grunt work while higher up beings like Innocence making sure the flood of light doesn't consume too fast. Judging by Eulmore in trailer it seems like the Sin eaters are trying to not be noticed
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    Quote Originally Posted by LineageRazor View Post
    One thing to be clear on: the things we fought in Amdapor were NOT Sin Eaters. They were golems in the likeness of Sin Eaters. The question being posed is not so much "how did Sin Eaters get into Amdapor?", but rather, "How did the Amdapori know what Sin Eaters look like?".
    The Kuribu in the trailer appeared to be made at least partially of stone based on the appearance of the boot, so I interpreted that as they are simply made of a stone-like substance and were mistaken for golems by later generations since Amdapor already had golems and there was no reason to believe they could be anything else. Alternatively they could have been intentionally "disguised" as golems by the Amdapor to keep the secret of their power very hush-hush. I don't think we can necessarily just accept everything we know as gospel anymore since already a significant amount of the "rules" we've been given by the lore have been bent.


    Quote Originally Posted by LineageRazor View Post
    Since the Flood endangers them, as well, are they in favor of stopping it? Or do they want it to continue?
    Since the flood seems kinda analogous to the Rapture, and Sin Eaters analogous to angels, their purpose could very well be to spread and maintain Light. I keep on mentioning this specific one, but the Kuribu from the trailer did descend to the Derplander silhouetted by godrays, and after it was defeated night was returned to a portion of the sky. It could very well be they come into existence to quicken the Flood of Light before returning to the Lifestream. They may even be closer to Ascians than to Voidsent, at least in terms of their role and goals.
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