Sin Eaters

[Johaandr]

Same reason as why Eulmore is not Limsa Lominsa, why Lakeland is not Mor Dhona, and why Dwarves are not Lalafell. We're on a different world. They have different names for things here.

EDIT: And why they don't function the same? Well, maybe they do. Or maybe Voidsent prefer destruction over domination. Sort of like D&D Demons vs Devils. Lawful Evil and Chaotic Evil.

I think you missed the point. Eulmore is on first. The 13th shard is flooded by darkness. the source is obv the source and the voidsent comes from the 13th shard.

Im coming after equality in terms of power for both ying yang. Why is that they are named sin eater as if they never had any voidsent on their shard(1st). So i assume that they just gave them a name. But in terms of power the sin eater seems to be on better leauhe than voidsent that cannot make humans into voidsent.

[Hezzlocks]

I think you missed the point. Eulmore is on first. The 13th shard is flooded by darkness. the source is obv the source and the voidsent comes from the 13th shard.

Im coming after equality in terms of power for both ying yang. Why is that they are named sin eater as if they never had any voidsent on their shard(1st). So i assume that they just gave them a name. But in terms of power the sin eater seems to be on better leauhe than voidsent that cannot make humans into voidsent.

But we don't know what the Voidsent call themselves, nor what people on the 13th called them before they were all wiped out by the flood of darkness (if, indeed, they even got the chance to). Voidsent were named by the people of *the Source*. Sin Eaters were named by the people of the First. Not that that really matters, though, since even if we knew what the Voidsent call themselves, they named themselves on the Thirteenth, not on the First, so... my point yet remains. They were named by completely different people on completely different worlds. The people of the Source / Thirteenth never knew what Sin Eaters were, and people of the First never knew what Voidsent were.

And again, about their abilities, we don't know. They could very well share the same abilities, just, as I said, perhaps Voidsent prefer destruction over assimilation. Just because they *don't* do it doesn't mean they *can't*.

[Daralii]

I think you missed the point. Eulmore is on first. The 13th shard is flooded by darkness. the source is obv the source and the voidsent comes from the 13th shard.

Im coming after equality in terms of power for both ying yang. Why is that they are named sin eater as if they never had any voidsent on their shard(1st). So i assume that they just gave them a name. But in terms of power the sin eater seems to be on better leauhe than voidsent that cannot make humans into voidsent.

Who says Voidsent can't make humans into more Voidsent? The very early THM quests involve one possessing a Lalafell, some like Mindflayers can manifest by possessing corpses, and then there's the entirety of Haukke Manor's story.

[Lewtskie]

Who says Voidsent can't make humans into more Voidsent? The very early THM quests involve one possessing a Lalafell, some like Mindflayers can manifest by possessing corpses, and then there's the entirety of Haukke Manor's story.

The very Huakke Manor dungeon has you having to rescue wailers before they get turned, so yeah, Voidsent can absolutely turn others.

So my question is why the name «sin eater» and not lightsent? If the r suppose to be the opposite of voidsent why is that Sin eater can eat humans and turn them into so called «sin eaters». I mean i want both to be equal but so far the sin eaters seems to be a better league than voidsent...

Oh yeh cant forget the awesome Lightwardens! Are there any opposite sich Darkwarden? Remember a normal person cant kill a Lightwarden easily cuse when they die the light exposes and turn people nearby into sim eaters. So i hope we can meet a darkwarden that does the same effect,

Sin Eaters is a twisted name that came about as people ironically considered these creatures came from the heavens to punish them for their sins; the eating part... well because they eat people. The people of the First don't actually know what eaters are, they're merely held up by superstition and fear of unknowing. Ont he source Voidsent were given their name by scholars who have studied the entities enough to know from where they came.

On the topic of power levels, do note that eaters and voidsent are not alive, they are essentially physcial manifestations of their respected aether. The Voidsent we engage on the source will always be of diminished strength because the scale of Dark to Light is still somewhat even. On The First with Light being in abundance meant every eater we faced was at its natural strength.

[ObsidianFire]

Well... in order for Voidsent to even get to the Source, they need a portal big enough to let them through. Usually those portals are created on purpose by mages. The most powerful Voidsent (like the Cloud of Darkness) can never come through to the Source because they are too big for a portal to ever be made that they can go though.

It also begs the question of how the really powerful Voidsent can get aether if they never leave the Void... even though they by definition have to have the most aether of any Voidsent...

[Grimr]

imps are small enough to fit threw small tears. As for the mage part, it would seem that one faction of mage open a portal to the void, and two others open portals to the first. I am referring about the fifth astral era.

I don't know if black magic got its start in the third astral era by emperor xande. He was trying to get a stable portal to the void linked to the source.

[dragoelete]

imps are small enough to fit threw small tears. As for the mage part, it would seem that one faction of mage open a portal to the void, and two others open portals to the first. I am referring about the fifth astral era.

I don't know if black magic got its start in the third astral era by emperor xande. He was trying to get a stable portal to the void linked to the source.

the sin eaters werent even around during the 5th calamity. they have only been around for 100 years on the first meaning about 2-3 years on the source cause the timeline between them got all kinds of screwed up.

[JeanneOrnitier]

the sin eaters werent even around during the 5th calamity. they have only been around for 100 years on the first meaning about 2-3 years on the source cause the timeline between them got all kinds of screwed up.

Well somehow Amdapor knew what Sin Eaters looked like to model statues after them. Hopefully we get an answer to that soon, iirc Alphinaud said he wanted to investigate that at some point in ShB.

[Zohar_Lahar]

the sin eaters werent even around during the 5th calamity. they have only been around for 100 years on the first meaning about 2-3 years on the source cause the timeline between them got all kinds of screwed up.

It is possible the Allagans had created some synthetic Sin Eaters. Or the Amdapori accidentally created one...

[Rannie]

Well... in order for Voidsent to even get to the Source, they need a portal big enough to let them through. Usually those portals are created on purpose by mages. The most powerful Voidsent (like the Cloud of Darkness) can never come through to the Source because they are too big for a portal to ever be made that they can go though.

It also begs the question of how the really powerful Voidsent can get aether if they never leave the Void... even though they by definition have to have the most aether of any Voidsent...

Actually now the the veil between the void and ours is thinner and can cause larger tears for more powerful void sent to come through. Though mages will still create artificial portals for summoning. (Per encyclopedia eorzea book one page 296 Summoning the voidsent)