Thread: NEW HEALER FOR 5.0

Originally Posted by Seraphor

Traditionally, the dancer job sat in the back row and danced to bestow party buffs or inflict battle-wide status effects, and thats it.

And considering that ranged physical DPS are the closest we have to that in this game, its a perfect fit there. The keynote said that the dances would be for party buffs.

Don't need any new tanks or healers actually. Need to just rebalance what counts as a Light Party. Then DPS ques will be less costly when a light party is 5 instead of 4. That's 3 Dps, 1 tank, 1 healer. Then just buff the amount of HP on trash/boss. In terms of balance this work out fine. However would still like them to add a healer job just cus they added a extra tank.

Originally Posted by Levy9

This was supposed to be the case with Stormblood as well, but that didn't really pan out, despite us not getting a new healer. Honestly, having four tanks might make designing them easier in a sense. They could divide the role into sub categories: two off-tanks and two main tanks.

Healers already feel like the least varied role in terms of both playstyle and class aesthetics to me. Even if we did get a major playstyle shakeup (doubtful after Stormblood), the aesthetics are still all similar (robes, lilies, sparkles, butterflies, bright lights). Whereas, tanks have a dark theme, a light theme, a traditional warrior and a tech focused tank coming in ShB.

I mention this in the healer forums about how to balance the role. They told me to shut it and go away.... 2.0 felt so good because WHM was clearly the main healer and SCH was the backup. Then HW happened.

Originally Posted by Hustensaft

The issue with a new healer is that FFXIVs underlying healer design is just poor:

Every Healer has the base toolkit: Two differently strong single-target heals, a caster centered AoE heal, and some HoT.
Then come the abilties, which are the same for everyone: (several) big instant ST heals, (several) big AoE heals, damage mitigation, damage support (for AST/SCH).
As far as DPS is cornced, with the removal of cleric stance in 4.0, they've all been pretty much dumped down to: DoTs up, spam ST cast.

Even the Class Gauges hardly do anything: Lilies are a 20% CD reduction at 3 stacks - woho, Fairy Gauge is a stronger HoT that allows for more "fun" DPS time, and AST is just a visualization of their group buffs.

A new healer is absolutely pointless with the state the current healers are in. You first have to fix all three current healers before bringing a new one. Though that's very unlikely to happen.

That's an awful justification though. It's asking your kid to do to chores, and then having them say "No, I didn't do the laundry. But what would be the point, look what a bad job I did on the dishes?"

Is this reasoning supposed to make us satisfied?

Well there is the E3 left after before shadow bringer so maybe

For me it’s either quit the game or swap from healer main to dancer main. Considering I like my fc too much and I’m picky when it comes to games, looks like I’m going dps. I’ll level the healers just for the sole purpose of raiding (since I’m stuck in the healer slot in my raid group), but everything outside of raids will be all about dancer.

I don’t care if “it made more sense for dnc to be dps”. I don’t. Care. I dreamt of it being healer. The possibility of it adding such a change to healing was extremely attractive to me, since the current healers are far too similar. My fc had a viewing party in discord. When I saw dancer I was literally screaming and bouncing in excitement, and to have that excitement quickly turn to anger, devastation, and utter disappointment was a terrible feeling. My hype for the expansion was gone, especially after the “THE two jobs for ShB are gunbreaker and dancer” bit. I don’t believe it’s mistranslating.

Not getting a new healer is crap, I don’t care if you support it. Tanks are just as bad as healers in balance. Honestly I’m tired of hearing “delete drk”. Why is it tanks get a new shiny, dps keep getting shinies expansion after expansion and healers are the ones shafted? The thought of having to wait 6 years to POSSIBLY get another healer makes my blood boil. Instead of wasting resources on the mistake that is blu, a healer should’ve been created instead, that way tanks/healers/ranged all got new shinies. I’m tired of the same cookie cutter healers. Balance is the dumbest excuse. They couldn’t get it right through all of HW. They didn’t give us anything in SB so they could “focus on balance” and yet again failed through the whole expansion. They aren’t going to get it right, and we shouldn’t get shafted because the devs can’t balance their classes right. Shoot, dps aren’t even balanced, yet they keep pumping those out like no other. Screw the balance bs. We deserve something new as well. We’ve been waiting just as long as ranged have.

Originally Posted by DuskTS

Healers adapt... to playing DPS or Tank in 5.0

Originally Posted by Mesarthim

If we don't get a new healing job I might just drop the role entirely in disinterest barring few exceptions.

I like that both these posts are next to each other. More like DPS can learn to adapt to 60 minute queues in 5.0

The haha no new healer cheerleaders will be quiet now.

New healer or else.

Originally Posted by ShenDrakar

Maybe a Timemage healer since we are going to the past, someone need to send us there. Like the guy with the crystal hand at the top of the crystal tower talking about the need of changing the history.

We aren't going to the past. We are going to a parallel world. Another copy of Hydaelyn. In the lore, Hydaelyn and Zodiark fought and Hydaelyn was split into 14 "shards". We're going to "The First" shard.