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  1. #381
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    Quote Originally Posted by Taykawai View Post
    It takes away the liberty from the game to me, i can choose my name, i can choose my job, i can choose my race, why i can't choose my gender? It's not a big deal for some and may be hard to empathize with that, but ridiculous? That doesn't make my reasons to unsub any less legitime than the others.
    Umm, you can choose your gender. Just not the exact race and gender combo you may or may not want with the 2 new races. It's nothing new in the Eastern MMO space.

    Also, there are no male Viera in the game right now yet you're still playing ... so yes, it's ridiculous to leave just cause you didn't get a new thing you never had. If they hadn't swapped Viera in place of Fem Lions I woulda been let down but I'm still getting a new female option, the same content I enjoy and ... it's not like they OWE ME a Bunny girl. It's something I want but the possibility of one is not why I've played for so long.

    I could see if SE decided that too few people play FemRoe and Fem Elezen to keep supporting them ... so they deleted them, set the player characters affected to default human girls and sent the players a potion to change race/ appearance. THAT would be a solid and reasonable reason to leave over race as it's taking away something I had invested time and money and memories into, forcing me to choose something other than what I already had a connection to.

    But if you wanna leave for a silly reason ... w/e. It's your sub.
    So yeah .. bye, Felicia.

    Quote Originally Posted by Tsumdere View Post
    It's a bad reason to you. People play this game for multiple reasons and it being a glorified dress-up game is one of them. I have many, MANY friends who don't give a single crap about any content outside of glamour and role-playing. A new race is akin to years worth of content to them, and when it is not being offered, they would rather take their business elsewhere.
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    So your friends didn't play any of this Expansion seeing how we didn't get a new race?

    That's such strange logic seeing as only 1 new race has been added to the game so far. I mean, this isn't like LoL Champions ...
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  2. #382
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    Komi Shouko
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    Quote Originally Posted by Tsumdere View Post
    It's a bad reason to you. People play this game for multiple reasons and it being a glorified dress-up game is one of them. I have many, MANY friends who don't give a single crap about any content outside of glamour and role-playing. A new race is akin to years worth of content to them, and when it is not being offered, they would rather take their business elsewhere.
    For many others, including myself, it's the final straw that broke the camel's back and not the sole reason to unsub (as you would know if you read the OP).

    Unsubbing silently is not what SE wants. Yoshi-P has gone out publicly to say give feedback. That is what people are doing. No reason to try and silence those who are being polite and giving honest feedback just because you personally do not care.
    Obviously it is my personal opinion but I wouldn't call "hey I was playing the game just fine until now with no Viera but now I'm unsubbing until you add them." a "feedback".
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  3. #383
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    Mimi Nyan
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    Quote Originally Posted by reivaxe View Post
    Umm, you can choose your gender. Just not the exact race and gender combo you may or may not want with the 2 new races. It's nothing new in the Eastern MMO space.

    Also, there are no male Viera in the game right now yet you're still playing ... so yes, it's ridiculous to leave just cause you didn't get a new thing you never had. If they hadn't swapped Viera in place of Fem Lions I woulda been let down but I'm still getting a new female option, the same content I enjoy and ... it's not like they OWE ME a Bunny girl. It's something I want but the possibility of one is not why I've played for so long.

    I could see if SE decided that too few people play FemRoe and Fem Elezen to keep supporting them ... so they deleted them, set the player characters affected to default human girls and sent the players a potion to change race/ appearance. THAT would be a solid and reasonable reason to leave over race as it's taking away something I had invested time and money and memories into, forcing me to choose something other than what I already had a connection to.

    But if you wanna leave for a silly reason ... w/e. It's your sub.
    So yeah .. bye, Felicia.



    So your friends didn't play any of this Expansion seeing how we didn't get a new race?

    That's such strange logic seeing as only 1 new race has been added to the game so far. I mean, this isn't like LoL Champions ...
    I'm playing cause i still have time left in my sub. Its so hard for ppl to understand that others play for different motives. It's not important to YOU, but to me it's a big deal. I can say that you keep sub to a game with gender locked races is ridiculous, its just that subjective. Stop trying to make your point of view the right one, cause its not, its just what you think.
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  4. #384
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    Quote Originally Posted by Taykawai View Post
    I'm playing cause i still have time left in my sub. Its so hard for ppl to understand that others play for different motives. It's not important to YOU, but to me it's a big deal. I can say that you keep sub to a game with gender locked races is ridiculous, its just that subjective. Stop trying to make your point of view the right one, cause its not, its just what you think.
    Soooooo ... what exactly DROVE you to play this game before? What did you enjoy about it? Was your motive to purely to support a game with no gender locking? Did you not get any enjoyment from it other than the pleasure of flushing away money to support this one game with no gender locking? Did you level boost your account and now have 2nd thoughts or did you leave for a long time and just sub again to post on the forums (Going off your character's level for that one. I'f your highest is level 60 with that Join Date then IDK what to say about your play pattern so Imma leave it.)?

    Sounds like the most entitled whiny mess to me.
    Either way ... bye, Felicia.
    Don't let the door hit ya.

    I'm gonna keep enjoying this game and respect the Dev's limitations and smart use of resources to give us something we wanted as well as something we needed, even if it didn't come with yet more race/ gender combos to join Femroe in the invisible club.

    There's many reasons to leave this game. I've dropped it in the past to. But this? It's the most special snow flake non-sense I've seen.
    "I didn't get something I never had, Imma leave if you don't permanently add more strain than you can handle to your production cycle to add something I'm not even gonna play as!" My oh my ..
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    Last edited by reivaxe; 03-28-2019 at 06:58 PM.

  5. #385
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    Quote Originally Posted by Taykawai View Post
    I'm playing cause i still have time left in my sub. Its so hard for ppl to understand that others play for different motives. It's not important to YOU, but to me it's a big deal. I can say that you keep sub to a game with gender locked races is ridiculous, its just that subjective. Stop trying to make your point of view the right one, cause its not, its just what you think.
    Your reason to leave the game is valid since it is your reason, though before you leave mind telling the community what SE could have done differently to keep you as a customer?
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  6. #386
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    Quote Originally Posted by Damas_87 View Post
    People online threats mean nothing, you will be back when expansion go live.
    Thats what the Bllizzard Devs also always told themself for Years. And yeah, some came back for 60 of around 730 Days of an Addon, so less than 10% of the life span of a Addon.
    And now the Game dropped so low, that it only can go downwards and nowhere else.
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  7. #387
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    Quote Originally Posted by Imuka View Post
    Thats what the Bllizzard Devs also always told themself for Years. And yeah, some came back for 60 of around 730 Days of an Addon, so less than 10% of the life span of a Addon.
    And now the Game dropped so low, that it only can go downwards and nowhere else.
    I'm sure there were a number of problems with their expansion/ addon that resulted in that.

    Do the snowflakes upset enough by no male Viera to leave this game they have poured 100s of hours into add up to any noticeable number?

    Kinda apples to oranges imo. People are being alarmist as hel trying to elevate this into something bigger than it is
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  8. #388
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    The sense of entitlement is real lol...
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    Hey could be worse, they could lock the new races behind a reputation that takes weeks to finish, then still take months to actually award you the race.

    (its not that serious)
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  10. #390
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    Quote Originally Posted by WhiteArchmage View Post
    Why someone would unsub is, of course, none of your business, but it IS the company's literal business and since SE doesn't have an in-depth questionnaire when you unsub, this is the next best thing. Yoshi-P himself values the complaints and it can be for any reasons, of which you may or may not value the same as others.

    For many, this game is about glamours, or what you can turn your character into, to the extent that they made a whole Gold Saucer mini-game out of it. Much like how they made a jumping mini-game because people liked the jump puzzles. You may feel that gender-locks or glamour are a minor thing but you don't play the game for the same reasons others do: some primarily RP, some game the Market Boards and craft, others decorate their houses or apartments.
    So your going to unsub because of something you didn't get what you hyped yourself up with?
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