Male Viera... Unsubbing for now.

[reivaxe]

Thats what the Bllizzard Devs also always told themself for Years. And yeah, some came back for 60 of around 730 Days of an Addon, so less than 10% of the life span of a Addon.
And now the Game dropped so low, that it only can go downwards and nowhere else.

I'm sure there were a number of problems with their expansion/ addon that resulted in that.

Do the snowflakes upset enough by no male Viera to leave this game they have poured 100s of hours into add up to any noticeable number?

Kinda apples to oranges imo. People are being alarmist as hel trying to elevate this into something bigger than it is

[MrKimper]

I'm sure there were a number of problems with their expansion/ addon that resulted in that.

Do the snowflakes upset enough by no male Viera to leave this game they have poured 100s of hours into add up to any noticeable number?

Kinda apples to oranges imo. People are being alarmist as hel trying to elevate this into something bigger than it is

I mean tbh, there was enough frustrating garbage in this expansion alone to make me personally unsub regardless of the genderlocks.

1. Terrible terrible implementation of eureka, anemos was meh, pagos was just offensive and STILL hasn't been nerf'd
2. We still don't have a fix for basic QoL things like an easier set-up for cross hotbar for controllers and east coast lag going unaddressed.
3. The terrible early launch, raubahn ex happening, despite them touting how much of a budget this expansion had.
4. Only two new jobs despite heavensward giving us 3.
5. Job balance being hit or miss and straight up ruining jobs for others, I pretty much quit NIN because it felt so janky and ten, chi, jin just wasn't it for me.
6. Swimming turned out to just be, flying but with a jarring water filter to it, my gathering friend says it's fun but I don't gather so it just served to make the journey through the ruby sea twice as annoying.
7. Buttcapes in the year of our lord and savior
8. PVP spell speed hackers are still a thing.

These were some things that just made me consider unsubbing personally. I decided not to because unlike Blizz devs, I genuinely do believe XIV's dev team are doing their best and honestly care about player feedback, as much as I hated eureka I could SEE what they were trying to do. As much as I despised exploring I could TELL what kind of feeling they wanted to impart, for me I chose to stick around because I really trust the devs to fix the issues that I have in shadowbringers because I know they at least try to bring something special to their players.

That being said I do think there are legitimate reasons for someone to unsub outside of no male viera and the game does need some backend fixes still.

[Imuka]

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You forgot the Bots ruining the Marketboard on every Server.

For me, the DRK was an absolute miss.
Dark Arts spam, till the Skill felt absolutly empty and shallow.

Why do you keep calling it an add-on? Its an expansion.

Because those two words mean literally the same thing and nobody really cares.
The Witcher 3 calls it "Expansion Pack" on the Box and Skyrim Dragonborn back then called it an "Addon" and both added new Areas, Quests and other Content...and honestly, who gives a damn.
Otherwise I would need to say "But nyaaahhh, it should be called Expansion Pack!" But hey, I am german and doing this is even to german for me.

And i don't know if you even play WoW, but people didn't quit over a "race". People quit for many good reasons.

And the 14 Players who unsub did it not just because of the missing male Viera, but they were something like the straw that broke the camel's back.
So many Players are unhappy with Heavensward 2.
A lot of things were handled pretty lazy with Stormblood and not everybody sees this Game anymore as a Game they want to pay Money for.
Especially paying 35 Euros for ShB, just to say "Nah, feels exactly like what I expected and now I feel like I wasted Money.".

I can understand this, because I was burned by a few Games I pre-ordered, like The Division.

[MrKimper]

You forgot the Bots ruining the Marketboard on every Server.

For me, the DRK was an absolute miss.
Dark Arts spam, till the Skill felt absolutly empty and shallow.

I'm still salty about when glamour prisms were like 30k a pop minimum so I say death to the marketboard. At least bots can't PM spam anymore.

Dark arts is just a dumpster fire, i really hope they thoroughly re-work it. A job should not require crab hands to be playable.

[Leomoon]

And the 14 Players who unsub did it not just because of the missing male Viera, but they were something like the straw that broke the camel's back.
So many Players are unhappy with Heavensward 2.
A lot of things were handled pretty lazy with Stormblood and not everybody sees this Game anymore as a Game they want to pay Money for.
Especially paying 35 Euros for ShB, just to say "Nah, feels exactly like what I expected and now I feel like I wasted Money.".

I can understand this, because I was burned by a few Games I pre-ordered, like The Division.

1: Male Viera are not missing they were never THERE. To miss something it has to at one point be there.

2: If people were truly unhappy about things they should voice their opinions and not bottle them up like I have seen some claim they are forced to do. You are free to voice your opinion but others are also allowed to point out the flaws in it, I am helping run a FC and this is vary much a thing I have to keep telling one player who keep causing trouble if you never say anything no one can do anything.

3: If you don't want to play because you don't feel it is worth it then unsub but do not make a holyer then thou reason for it like a Genderlock, As well you can have the option to CANCEL a pre-order and get credit or your money back from places you bought it unless it is the PSN store. If you really felt that burnt out by this game then why did you even pre-order in the first place?

[BillyKaplan]

If you really felt that burnt out by this game then why did you even pre-order in the first place?

To share my own experiences:
Because it was a fragile yet manageable status quo. I played it so far like that, I'll keep playing, like you said, but I will be lying if I said the disappointments weren't piling up by now. But then I found something I actually looked forward to that was new, that was different, and not more of the same of the things that I did like. That the last expansion didn't give me. And you can say it's fans hyping themselves up, but SE could've, at any point between revealing female Viera and male Hroths, told us male Viera weren't coming. It would've been as easy as showing the Viera race slide in Paris instead of Tokyo since that had a clear 'female limited' line. Instead they didn't do that.
And suddenly that status quo, which was fragile enough to begin with, cracks. Something I really wanted isn't coming. And because for whatever reason they stuck to genderlocks instead of giving us one proper full race (and no, I probably would've kept subbed for similar logic if we were getting full Hroth). And I will be reminded of this decision and the disappointment that came with it every time I log into the game because you know Viera will be everywhere. That wasn't there before. That's new. And that was my breaking point.

[Leomoon]

And you can say it's fans hyping themselves up, but SE could've, at any point between revealing female Viera and male Hroths, told us male Viera weren't coming. It would've been as easy as showing the Viera race slide in Paris instead of Tokyo since that had a clear 'female limited' line. Instead they didn't do that.
And suddenly that status quo, which was fragile enough to begin with, cracks. Something I really wanted isn't coming. And because for whatever reason they stuck to genderlocks instead of giving us one proper full race (and no, I probably would've kept subbed for similar logic if we were getting full Hroth). And I will be reminded of this decision and the disappointment that came with it every time I log into the game because you know Viera will be everywhere. That wasn't there before. That's new. And that was my breaking point.

Se added Viera at fan request not because they wanted too. It was a race people had been asking since 2.0 as well the team clearly didn't want to do but wanted to meet fan demand so thus they made them based on FFXII where all you see are females because the lore between the two are vary much the same. They WANTED to make Ronso race and we had a leak of them months before. There was not reason for them to say they were female only because they though fans only wanted the female half the male hype was all done by fans.

As well i this was your breaking point I am going to give you some VARY simple advice. If you are on the tipping point between buying and not buying then wait until a month before THEN pre-order if you feel inclined. Pre-ordering months ahead then crying about it is only a mistake of yourself and a wast of your own money. I have given my own feedback to things I am displeased with but I have remained subbed since my join date and I haven't had any reason nor seen any reason to unsub nor do I regret anything I have gotten from Square because I do research and a sit on a subject for a day or two before buying.

Stop wasting your money and peoples time with this useless worthless shouting match. If you felt you wasted money pre-ordering then get your money back or be smarter about things when you buy them, I want a new PC but I have am sitting a waiting until the right moment. Giving feedback on the genderlocked races is fine but getting angry with the Devs over something the fan hyped themselves for is nothing more then worthless. The more you name call the devs or blame them for YOUR anger the less incline they are to take the feedback.