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  1. #371
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    Ilyrian's Avatar
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    Ilyrian Silvermoon
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    You're all mad. Get angry at the game for providing nothing for us to do at max level.

    The reason they can get away with it is because they, quite rightly-ish, think a majority of people like sitting in a city staring at their character.

    This is why the main line of games have become a very pretty hallway. This is why this game is just very pretty instances.
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  2. #372
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    Quote Originally Posted by Taykawai View Post
    Ok, you affirming how i'm feeling it's beyond weird to me (and a lil pretentious). It's just a game dude, if it's no longer for my liking, i will not play. SE is not evil or anything.
    I am simply interested in what SE could have done differently from your perspective to keep you as a customer. Was simply confused with your reply to my question since you made it seem like you did feel SE made a mistake regarding the gender lock aspect, but then cite that as the reason as to why you are unsubbing. In the end trying to figure out what SE could have done differently with this situation.

    Unless I misunderstood your first post and the reason you cited for unsubbing was different, if so then sorry for not understanding.
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  3. #373
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    Wynn Storm
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    Mateus
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    Quote Originally Posted by Taykawai View Post
    Ok, you affirming how i'm feeling it's beyond weird to me (and a lil pretentious). It's just a game dude, if it's no longer for my liking, i will not play. SE is not evil or anything.
    Maybe if you had a legitimate reason for unsubbing, then maybe people wouldn't be confused.

    Unsubbing because of genderlock is by far the most ridiculous reason to unsub.

    There is plenty of other real issues to unsub.

    Any other reason would be better than "genderlock i'm unsubbing".
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  4. #374
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    Fia Mortivault
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    Quote Originally Posted by Wynn_Storm View Post
    Maybe if you had a legitimate reason for unsubbing, then maybe people wouldn't be confused.

    Unsubbing because of genderlock is by far the most ridiculous reason to unsub.

    There is plenty of other real issues to unsub.

    Any other reason would be better than "genderlock i'm unsubbing".
    Everyone has different values and reasons for playing. Just because it's something you wouldn't unsub for doesn't mean other people cant.
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  5. #375
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    Oraina Fhey
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    Things like this remind me of the WoW community always screaming that flight is no longer a day one feature of an expansion and is a (albeit terrible) achievement grind and it's account wide. "No fly, no buy" is often the rally cry they use.
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  6. #376
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    Quote Originally Posted by Tsumdere View Post
    Everyone has different values and reasons for playing. Just because it's something you wouldn't unsub for doesn't mean other people cant.
    I never said you can't unsub, i just said its not a good reason.

    Unsubbing because "genderlock" and "breaks player identity" is a pretty bad reason. Viera aren't even out yet, so what identity is even broken right now?

    I can tell you the reason i quit WoW, outside of raiding and M+ there is nothing to do. The Azerite system feels terrible, and unrewarding. There isn't enough substance to keep me interested.

    The genderlock thing is so tiny, its like saying "I'm quitting because Zandalari trolls are horde when they should have been alliance."

    Or "I'm quitting because alliance got another horse mount again."

    I understand that the company wants "I'm unsubbing" threads apparently.

    But whenever i unsubbed from WoW or FF14 i just did it without making some big thread on reddit or the forums. Its not a big deal and nobodies business.

    Just quit and leave. No need for the attention.
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  7. #377
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    Taykawai's Avatar
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    Mimi Nyan
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    Quote Originally Posted by Wynn_Storm View Post
    Maybe if you had a legitimate reason for unsubbing, then maybe people wouldn't be confused.

    Unsubbing because of genderlock is by far the most ridiculous reason to unsub.

    There is plenty of other real issues to unsub.

    Any other reason would be better than "genderlock i'm unsubbing".
    It takes away the liberty from the game to me, i can choose my name, i can choose my job, i can choose my race, why i can't choose my gender? It's not a big deal for some and may be hard to empathize with that, but ridiculous? That doesn't make my reasons to unsub any less legitime than the others. I'm not attacking or being disrespectful to square enix for their decisions or anything like that, but i have the right to not pay for a game that i no longer want to play.
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  8. #378
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    Fia Mortivault
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    Quote Originally Posted by Wynn_Storm View Post
    I never said you can't unsub, i just said its not a good reason.

    Unsubbing because "genderlock" and "breaks player identity" is a pretty bad reason. Viera aren't even out yet, so what identity is even broken right now?

    I can tell you the reason i quit WoW, outside of raiding and M+ there is nothing to do. The Azerite system feels terrible, and unrewarding. There isn't enough substance to keep me interested.

    The genderlock thing is so tiny, its like saying "I'm quitting because Zandalari trolls are horde when they should have been alliance."

    Or "I'm quitting because alliance got another horse mount again."

    I understand that the company wants "I'm unsubbing" threads apparently.

    But whenever i unsubbed from WoW or FF14 i just did it without making some big thread on reddit or the forums. Its not a big deal and nobodies business.

    Just quit and leave. No need for the attention.
    It's a bad reason to you. People play this game for multiple reasons and it being a glorified dress-up game is one of them. I have many, MANY friends who don't give a single crap about any content outside of glamour and role-playing. A new race is akin to years worth of content to them, and when it is not being offered, they would rather take their business elsewhere.
    For many others, including myself, it's the final straw that broke the camel's back and not the sole reason to unsub (as you would know if you read the OP).

    Unsubbing silently is not what SE wants. Yoshi-P has gone out publicly to say give feedback. That is what people are doing. No reason to try and silence those who are being polite and giving honest feedback just because you personally do not care.
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  9. #379
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    Samniel Atkascha
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    Quote Originally Posted by Wynn_Storm View Post
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    Why someone would unsub is, of course, none of your business, but it IS the company's literal business and since SE doesn't have an in-depth questionnaire when you unsub, this is the next best thing. Yoshi-P himself values the complaints and it can be for any reasons, of which you may or may not value the same as others.

    For many, this game is about glamours, or what you can turn your character into, to the extent that they made a whole Gold Saucer mini-game out of it. Much like how they made a jumping mini-game because people liked the jump puzzles. You may feel that gender-locks or glamour are a minor thing but you don't play the game for the same reasons others do: some primarily RP, some game the Market Boards and craft, others decorate their houses or apartments.
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  10. #380
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    Damas Stormrage
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    Tonberry
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    Lancer Lv 60
    People online threats mean nothing, you will be back when expansion go live.
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