Male Viera... Unsubbing for now.

[Pixelburst]

OP throwing a tantrum.

[Mizunoko]

Why not donate your subs to those poor WoW players who have ACTUAL game breaking issues with the game they have devoted their lives to. I am sure they would be more than grateful to play ffxiv, a game with no serious issues in comparison to most other mmo's out there these days, that is why ffxiv is getting bigger and more popular as it moves forward. Quitting over cosmetics.............i mean if your going to do something like that then you would have stopped playing over any other stupid reason at some point or another anyway. You were never a real fan/player/supporter if this is how you were going to act over something like this in the first place . Don't let the door hit you on the way out.

Whether you and others alike leave or not, the truth of the matter is this new expac will be a big success and probably have record high subs. Our game has been growing consistently over the years and it doesn't look like it will stop any time soon. My advice to you if you leave is find a game being run by devs that somehow are able to pander to every single minority in terms of content because that would be the miracle you need to satisfy yourself. Reality check, SE can't make every single player happy, no company can. What your claiming to look for doesn't exist and with that attitude you will never be happy.

[Souljacker]

I am sure they would be more than grateful to play ffxiv, a game with no serious issues.

No serious issues, huh? That's a pretty bold statement there.

[Fyce]

Unsubbing is a valid form of feedback.

It's actually the worst type of "feedback". It just shows that you are a volatile player that can quit the game on a whim. You stop being a customer and still expect to be treated as one. Doesn't really work like that. If you quit the game because you didn't get a race+gender combo, it means that everything else the game has to offer isn't enough to keep you in. Showing an enormous lack of interest with the product as a whole isn't really a smart move to get your point across.

Also, nothing can prove that these people would ever return, even if their wishes get fulfilled at one point, -and even if they do return- that they'd keep playing the game, given how volatile they are. As I said just above, if their primary incentive to play a game is to be a bunnyboy, then it's legitimate to question why are they even playing the game in the first place, and if they will actually stay or just quit a few weeks after for whatever reason because of a clear lack of actual attachment to the game itself.

It's obvious why a company wouldn't prioritize these people who aren't even playing anymore. Veteran players who stay, and potential new players are vastly more important. The ones who can come and go without thinking twice about it, not so much.
Besides, if SE had to listen to every niche saying "we won't sub if you don't do this and that", then it'd be an open door to pretty much anything. And we really don't need the game to be designed around people who show how fast they can quit.

Losing customers like that is only ever effective when it's massive due to a general consensus on core issues. Not when it's a tiny niche. Especially when these niches already showed that the threats of leaving the game are very often void of any actual action.

Tl;dr: Complaining as a customer is much more effective than saying "if you do what I want, maybe I'll come back and be a customer again".

[BillyKaplan]

It just shows that you are a volatile player that can quit the game on a whim.

i mean, yeah? It's a game. I didn't marry it.

You stop being a customer and still expect to be treated as one.

"I used to be a customer, and this is why I'm leaving. This is why others might leave. This is, potentially, also what you need to do to get my money again"
It's say it's very valuable feedback to a company.

Showing an enormous lack of interest with the product as a whole isn't really a smart move to get your point across.

It's a theme park MMO. No one is expected to care about every single thing.

Veteran players who stay

They're losing veterans over this too. People who have stayed for literal years. And, might I add, Veterans who were here the last time they genderlocked races, and veterans who fought against the genderlocks last time.
This is SE showing them they learned nothing of past mistakes.

[Mizunoko]

It's actually the worst type of "feedback". It just shows that you are a volatile player that can quit the game on a whim. You stop being a customer and still expect to be treated as one. Doesn't really work like that. If you quit the game because you didn't get a race+gender combo, it means that everything else the game has to offer isn't enough to keep you in. Showing an enormous lack of interest with the product as a whole isn't really a smart move to get your point across.

Also, nothing can prove that these people would ever return, even if their wishes get fulfilled at one point, -and even if they do return- that they'd keep playing the game, given how volatile they are. As I said just above, if their primary incentive to play a game is to be a bunnyboy, then it's legitimate to question why are they even playing the game in the first place, and if they will actually stay or just quit a few weeks after for whatever reason because of a clear lack of actual attachment to the game itself.

It's obvious why a company wouldn't prioritize these people who aren't even playing anymore. Veteran players who stay, and potential new players are vastly more important. The ones who can come and go without thinking twice about it, not so much.
Besides, if SE had to listen to every niche saying "we won't sub if you don't do this and that", then it'd be an open door to pretty much anything. And we really don't need the game to be designed around people who show how fast they can quit.

Losing customers like that is only ever effective when it's massive due to a general consensus on core issues. Not when it's a tiny niche. Especially when these niches already showed that the threats of leaving the game are very often void of any actual action.

Tl;dr: Complaining as a customer is much more effective than saying "if you do what I want, maybe I'll come back and be a customer again".

100% agree with you. Everything you said hits the nail right on the head.

[Izanagi_Fiaresu]

Thats not accurate. Viera are more Amazonian while Miqos aren't that Amazonian. Males roes are more humanoid..so really no comparison there

[Atreyu]

I want to see male Viera and female Hrothgar as well, but I don't think it's worth throwing the baby out with the bath water over it.
If you've made up your mind, then that's your choice and I wish you well, but I would rather stay and play with my new toys as I give feedback rather than ragequit because I'm not being catered to *yet*.

[Imuka]

Veteran players who stay, and potential new players are vastly more important. The ones who can come and go without thinking twice about it, not so much.[/I]".

No, not really. There is one group of Players who are important for them: "People who have not played the Game till now.".
Does it feel like their big focus are the Players they have in the Game at the moment? Not really from my View.
Over the Years, they have canceled every Fan Gathering around conventions. They reduced the Numbers of T Shirts for Players on the Conventions. It is pretty unlikely that a Person who never played it, beats a Primal playing the Game for the forst time.
But they throw more stuff around to get new Players into the Game.

And this whole thing is a vicious circle running into a pit of fire.
They strech for new Players, while losing old and this costs them Money, so they need so spend more of the money for more advertisement to attract new Players.
The budget missing makes is harder to make new things for the Game, which makes old Players leave.
This forces them to strech even more with even more Advertisement for the Game, to find new Players and again, this Budget is missing for the Game and makes again old Players leave...which brings them back to streching even more and more and more and more...like a vicious circle.


And at the moment, they feel like this works great, but it only works, because so many people leave WoW and jump onto the other AAA Publisher MMO.

And this is the Devil behind Companies and Investors thinking, that there is an limitless growth in this Industry and a Game/Company needs to grow every Year.
But the Number of humans on this Planet is not limitless and the Number of people who play games is not limitless and the same goes for Money.
And this is one of the reasons, why gaming is killing itself today. If you have all the money, there is no more Money to make.
But this is a different topic. ^^

[Eriane_Elis]

OP, you're absolutely childish. Don't you know how unbelievably hard it is to add anything to this game is especially new races? Be thankful there are two new races added to the game, gender locking isn't that big of a deal considering you probably play the opposite gender in a lot of other games because there's no choice in the matter. The overhead to add a counter gender is astronomical because clothes aren't fluid materials like in modern games. They legitimately have to adjust over 10,000 armor pieces for both male and female to support it. That's 6 years of updates to go back and fix.

Yoshi P. stated that it's not a high priority right now because they have to focus on other parts of the expansion. I can imagine it costing an enormous amount of money to do. He also stated that having the other gender to be something they are considering for the future once they have streamlined development after shadowbringer's release.

They will not release male viera for quite some time if ever, so you're only punishing yourself for this because you're one of the few who's complaining. But who am I kidding? They will not notice a dozen or so users who are genuinely upset to the point of unsubscribing because WoW refugees are taking their spot very quickly.

Please consider the fact that development costs are really high when adding new races, and remember that it is something new that people have a choice to use and it's not the end of the world if they don't add opposite genders. People are saying "they shouldn't have added a new race if they gender locked it" but then they wouldn't have added a new race for the majority who want to play as a female Viera? That's punishing a wide majority of players.

It's only a cosmetic, nothing more, nothing less. I'd rather they spend 3 months worth of budget on adding a lot of new content than seeing them waste time on the opposite gender to appease the <0.00001%