Male Viera... Unsubbing for now.

[Sheriyana]

Okie dokie, cosmetics are true end game- delete mogstation then :3

I don't know what the mogstation has to do with any of this. The phrase means that the endgame is making the perfect outfits for your character and at "endgame" you have access to most options since you don't have to worry about being restricted by level. And yes, the outfits can also consist of mogstation pieces.

[ThunderGodThor]

I don't know what the mogstation has to do with any of this. The phrase means that the endgame is making the perfect outfits for your character and at "endgame" you have access to most options since you don't have to worry about being restricted by level. And yes, the outfits can also consist of mogstation pieces.

I'm not trying to turn this into a debate about the mogstation, been there way too many times. But you said that glamor is the true endgame, and I agree- folk should be able to make there character look exactly how they want. But a cash shop is still a barrier when it comes to glamor, in the same way that gender exclusive races are. Can't have it both ways. If cosmetics is your argument, then open the races to both genders, and make everything on the mogstation available in game.

[Sheriyana]

I'm not trying to turn this into a debate about the mogstation, been there way too many times. But you said that glamor is the true endgame, and I agree- folk should be able to make there character look exactly how they want. But a cash shop is still a barrier when it comes to glamor, in the same way that gender exclusive races are. Can't have it both ways. If cosmetics is your argument, then open the races to both genders, and make everything on the mogstation available in game.

I mean I sure don't have any problem with making mogstation items available ingame if that's where you were going at, by all means.

[ThunderGodThor]

I mean I sure don't have any problem with making mogstation items available ingame if that's where you were going at, by all means.

And I hope one day soon, you get to play as a bunny boi or big beefy lion woman. :3

[Sheriyana]

And I hope one day soon, you get to play as a bunny boi or big beefy lion woman. :3

Aww, thank you! I was a little bit interested in male Viera myself. I don't really care for most of the male counterparts of races in FFXIV, they're all either too beefy or too tall. There's not really a race that fits the typical FF male main character archetype lookwise, all of them are quite slim and not that muscular. I was hoping maybe male Viera would fit into that, and if it didn't, no harm done I have my female Au Ra. I'm sure there's people who would have enjoyed male Viera no matter how tall or muscular they turned out to be.

[Physic]

Aww, thank you! I was a little bit interested in male Viera myself. I don't really care for most of the male counterparts of races in FFXIV, they're all either too beefy or too tall. There's not really a race that fits the typical FF male main character archetype lookwise, all of them are quite slim and not that muscular. I was hoping maybe male Viera would fit into that, and if it didn't, no harm done I have my female Au Ra. I'm sure there's people who would have enjoyed male Viera no matter how tall or muscular they turned out to be.

hyur elezen and miquote males are slim, anf hyur and miquote are short. you can adjust musclness with a slider. I doubt male vierra would be slimmer than midlander hyur.

based on these early concepts

https://nightwing.stevivor.com/wp-co...male-viera.jpg

looks like they would be inbetween miquote and au ra in terms of build.

[SomeRandomHuman]

hyur elezen and miquote males are slim, anf hyur and miquote are short. you can adjust musclness with a slider. I doubt male vierra would be slimmer than midlander hyur.

based on these early concepts

https://nightwing.stevivor.com/wp-co...male-viera.jpg

looks like they would be inbetween miquote and au ra in terms of build.

midlanders and miqo'te aren't "slim." Midlander has a generic average build with adjustable muscle tone. Miqo'te are rather muscular with an average upper body and slightly thinner lower body without an adjustable muscle tone.

Elezen are a little more on the lithe side yes, but they are very lanky with their odd proportions and they look bulky still, and again no adjustable muscle tone

We have no lithe male in the sense that it is more petite and frail looking.