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  1. #101
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    Xilibrius's Avatar
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    Kinura Xi
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    Marauder Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by CarnivalNights View Post
    OH MY GOD This is fantastic. Discord is gonna get this tonight.
    this one had me laughing the hardest to the announcemnet of Hrothgar
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  2. #102
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    Aryn Tatsuuchi
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    Quote Originally Posted by redcurrant18 View Post
    Not everyone who disagrees with you is a social justice warrior. However, when people add their perspectives/biases to their arguments that doesn't necessarily mean their opinions are invalid. The majority has spoken that gender locks are a horrible decision-regardless of whether they prefer Hrothgar or Viera.
    I don't prefer either.
    I like my current race.

    I just don't think locking races to only a single gender is a good decision.

    And, according to reports, back in 2.x the devs thought the same thing...
    Supposedly citing that as a reason for unlocking the races previously locked in 1.x...
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  3. #103
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    Para Midia
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    Jenova
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    Astrologian Lv 90
    Quote Originally Posted by Xilibrius View Post
    but the lore said they live and die alone only coming out of seclusion to mate, and get newly discovered males and train them to live on their own.
    Lore also says effectively the same thing for male members of one of the Miqo'te tribes. Duskwight Elezen also live in heavy seclusion, regardless of gender. But you can still play as them.
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  4. #104
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    Sony Vaio
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    Jenova
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    Quote Originally Posted by decoratibo View Post
    Lore also says effectively the same thing for male members of one of the Miqo'te tribes. Duskwight Elezen also live in heavy seclusion, regardless of gender. But you can still play as them.
    This. It shouldn't make a difference. There was no precedent for this other than early issues that were already criticized and resolved. There was no good reason for them to add new genderlocked races, I'm sorry.
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  5. #105
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    Neroh Serran
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    Ultros
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    Gladiator Lv 50
    Remember all of those male Viera in the FFXII village? Why couldn't they model them based off of those?
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  6. #106
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    Quote Originally Posted by cipherthevideo View Post
    This. It shouldn't make a difference. There was no precedent for this other than early issues that were already criticized and resolved. There was no good reason for them to add new genderlocked races, I'm sorry.
    from a technical standpoint there is actually, It's easier to model gear for one gender and one gender only since they mentioned already that as it was the viera female model was different from the traditional models used in game. This is just me speculating however as I have no background in computer programing or engineering but I imagine it'd be a hell of a lot easier to only have to worry how a set of gear looks on one model then two since it's unlikley that viera males would have the exact same model as the female.
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  7. #107
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    Lily Lovelace
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    Seraph
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    Astrologian Lv 90
    I'm sorry to all of you who didn't get the male Bunny's they wanted.
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  8. #108
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    Rufus Wightman
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    Omega
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    Dark Knight Lv 90
    Oh, okay. Bye.
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    I could've done so much with my life. Then I played FFXIV. 10/10

  9. #109
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    Jenova
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    Quote Originally Posted by Xilibrius View Post
    from a technical standpoint there is actually, It's easier to model gear for one gender and one gender only since they mentioned already that as it was the viera female model was different from the traditional models used in game. This is just me speculating however as I have no background in computer programing or engineering but I imagine it'd be a hell of a lot easier to only have to worry how a set of gear looks on one model then two since it's unlikley that viera males would have the exact same model as the female.
    I agree, which makes the decision to add a whole other seperate race even more baffling to me. I don't have a background in programming either, but I wouldn't be surprised if they were merely modified male roegadyn models to save time in an attempt to compensate for the lack of male viera. I'm happy for those that wanted hrothgar, but unhappy that they believed that would take the place of male viera as some sort of "consolation prize" in any capacity.
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  10. #110
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    Jenova
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    Quote Originally Posted by Xilibrius View Post
    from a technical standpoint there is actually, It's easier to model gear for one gender and one gender only since they mentioned already that as it was the viera female model was different from the traditional models used in game. This is just me speculating however as I have no background in computer programing or engineering but I imagine it'd be a hell of a lot easier to only have to worry how a set of gear looks on one model then two since it's unlikley that viera males would have the exact same model as the female.
    Forgive me if I'm missing or forgetting something, but I'm pretty sure all they said that was different was just the ears. They had to modify headgear. Headgear is largely unisex and they should not have had too much issue carrying that over to male models. Either way, it's not like they only made female Viera. They also went through the trouble of making male Hrothgar and adjusting existing armor to fit them. I'm also not a coder, but I cannot see how creating a completely new race would have been easier than creating a male variant of an already existent female model. I have worked in 3D modeling before, and from that perspective, having to adjust armor for a completely different race with completely different features and proportions seems like much harder work to me. At best, I believe the effort put into making either a new race or a new gender variant would have been equal.
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