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    Nihility's Avatar
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    Tenebria Miku
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    Behemoth
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    Arcanist Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by purgatori View Post
    /My future Viera self waves bye bye.

    On a more serious note, I am personally, and selfishly happy that there doesn't appear to be any male Viera incoming. I always gravitate towards playable races in games that only consist of female members (e.g., Asari from ME). But if I step back from selfish mode a little bit, I can see how including male Viera would have resulted in a higher number of happy players overall, since I assume that I am in the tiny minority for whom having male Viera would actually make us less happy---and even then, it's the kind of less happy that we could probably live with.

    That's really the most sympathy that anyone who is upset over this is going to get from me, though, as I just can't relate/empathise.
    I'm actually fairly happy they are as they've always been too.
    All these upset people seem to be upset that something that never existed outside their own imagination of what it might have been didn't materialize.

    Even the concept art matching the female viera is not even remotely close to what all these complaint threads are claiming it would have been

    And we already have the ability to make diminutive males in miqote and midlander and even elezen can have those features in a taller race
    And we already have the ability to make super muscular women with roegadyn and Highlander.

    And lalafel you can't even tell if it's male or female unless you know the animation differences if androgenous is the goal

    The claims of needing to fill a gap are just aren't true outside the people that openly just say they want a character that looks like it's from underage hentai
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    Cadence Evermoore
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    Scholar Lv 81
    Quote Originally Posted by Nihility View Post
    And we already have the ability to make super muscular women with roegadyn and Highlander.
    I disagree with this. Highlanders aren't super muscular in frame or at max "chiseled" by any metric. Not when compared to their "softer" Hylean counterpart. Not when compared to femroes. Not when compared to the range of other female playable character options in range from smallest to biggest. When the other "big girl" in the game is still 24 inches minimum shorter than my femroe and only distinguishable from the "smaller" version of their race in stance not actual visually discernible size, you can hardly call it the muscular woman option.

    If you want to be female and big in this game you have one option. It kind of sucks that there isn't a fat option in this game, but it is what it is and fat isn't popular with much people other than me in a wish fulfillment based game like this.

    I know I'd personally love a new race of some sort with actually fat females (or just another big type similar to femroe but beastly...like um...I don't know, as the counterpart to the hrothgar). There are gaps that could be filled. Female body type variation is one of them.

    As I'm a relatively new player it's not a game breaker for me that these gaps in representation do exist, because there is other representation and an almost overwhelming amount of customization in this game.

    I know that were it not for deciding to ungenderlock races at some point, I would not even have my femroe to play. While knowing that does make me sympathize with people who expected unlocked viera (since this feels like a step back), it also makes me hopeful that at some point in the future they might unlock viera and hrothgar. Maybe they intend to release the other gender models later because they aren't ready yet? No one likes incomplete character models. It helps me to hold onto hope for a later release date because, like I said before, female hrothgar would be neat if they make them proportionate to their male counterparts.

    I get being upset about this, and as a person who unsubbed from WoW several weeks ago over a disagreement in how they treated employees, I think unsubbing for any level of dissatisfaction with the game is valid. I don't disagree with announcing it on the forums, either. This is hopefully the one place your feedback can be heard by the people who can do anything to increase your satisfaction.

    I do hope they implement the male and female versions of viera and hrothgar eventually and people unsubbing get to return. I tried a lot of MMOs when I quit WoW and this is the only one that felt complete, even in comparison to WoW itself, as so much of the game's lore is found outside of the game for some reason. It kind of sucks to know what the other gaming options are out there for people quitting this one. I'm sad for all of you.
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