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  1. #31
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    Tabbs's Avatar
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    Magia Dragonnier
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    Faerie
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    Red Mage Lv 93
    Quote Originally Posted by Endeleon View Post
    ...it's just these races are the biggest glaring misogynistic pile of 2007 garbage out of them all.
    Very much this. I remember first joining FFXIV because I constantly heard they didn't really do the typical "same armour on man is a bikini on women" type of thing, and that men could even be skimpy if they wanted. It goes much further than cosmetics (though that's certainly part of it) in that it's so obnoxiously typical of games to make the man a visual powerhouse and the woman some eye candy for the male players.
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  2. #32
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    DamianFatale's Avatar
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    Arctura Fengari
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    Balmung
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    Dancer Lv 90
    Quote Originally Posted by Bacent View Post
    Don't let the door hit ya on the way out.

    You always say stuff like this to people.
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  3. #33
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    Veliona Umrtia
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    Leviathan
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    Dragoon Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by Endeleon View Post
    snip.
    You have no claims to back up where the game is headed aside from your personal feelings because you didn't get what you wanted. Also, pulling the misogynist card....really? Just stop. This is embarassing.
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  4. #34
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    kupokage's Avatar
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    Amanda's Husband
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    Exodus
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    Gladiator Lv 90
    It's 2019. Stop labeling these races as female or male.

    As far as i can tell, none of em have visible vaginas or penises.

    They're whatever you ERPers need them to be.

    Go start a GoFundMe and get back the money you've already spent on the game if it helps relieve the butt hurt. I heard that was the cool thing to do today as well as bitching about everything.

    See you in early access btw.
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  5. #35
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    Gumbercules Thesecond
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    Hyperion
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    Miner Lv 80
    This is the first time im tempted to race change for the ronso personally, that being said im a firm advocate of vote with your wallet So you do you, I stopped playing wow for a simple reason, i felt it wasn't a game for me anymore. I do ask for people to be at least honest though, development time and resources are finite and a beast race is something Yoshi P has been asking for since the 2.0 remake. Acting like this choice was done to spite you personally is absurd, they said right on the keynote their reasoning for this. Last time making a race and limited resources. No conspiracy, no homophobia (fack if ppl knew some of the norms they fight in japan as is!) Was plainly and simply explained, resources and choices made.
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  6. #36
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    Estinien Bale
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    Asura
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    It is only seen as a sexist act. Women must also have a variety of options.
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  7. #37
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    Farilyn Rhythas
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    Goblin
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    Ninja Lv 100
    See ya on launch day my dude
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  8. #38
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    Sigma-Astra's Avatar
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    Soma Kagami
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    Sargatanas
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    Black Mage Lv 90
    Quote Originally Posted by Endeleon View Post
    Excuse me? How? Gender locked races where the male is a hulking monster and the female is a god damn sex doll are incredibly bad signs, ESPECIALLY when the original iterations of these races are not gender locked. Not to mention, the new storyline for SHB is basically tryhard bullshit where you have to ~express the evil to balance the good~ and then let's not even get started on how they have decided to make a tank and no new healer?

    There's many many things that are telling of messy, ill thought and bad decisions, it's just these races are the biggest glaring misogynistic pile of 2007 garbage out of them all.
    These races are homages to the originals that they were based off of: Ronso and 12's Fran.

    Stop using buzzwords you have no business of using because you're talking with feelings rather than logic right now.
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  9. #39
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    Niqmepa Desfosse
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    Coeurl
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    Quote Originally Posted by Endeleon View Post
    it's just these races are the biggest glaring misogynistic pile of 2007 garbage out of them all.
    Thank you for putting it this way. The absence of male viera is a mistake but the inclusion of gender-locked Ronso takes it further and turns it into an insult. Not how SE wants their consumers to be feeling, I think.

    Just adding me voice to the "Thanks I hate it" crowd. FFXIV has made a big mistake with this one.

    Quote Originally Posted by Sigma-Astra View Post
    These races are homages to the originals that they were based off of: Ronso and 12's Fran.

    Stop using buzzwords you have no business of using because you're talking with feelings rather than logic right now.
    Everything they said is completely on-point. This is an homage? To Ronso? The Hrothgar look nothing like Ronso. They look horrible. And there were female Ronso all over FFX that looked awesome. You're way off base here.
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  10. #40
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    Kazran Vauxlmont
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    Mateus
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    It really feels like the whole "Males are big ugly muscle men, and Women are cute sexy lithe ladies" and its such a gross thing
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