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    Eriane_Elis's Avatar
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    OP, you're absolutely childish. Don't you know how unbelievably hard it is to add anything to this game is especially new races? Be thankful there are two new races added to the game, gender locking isn't that big of a deal considering you probably play the opposite gender in a lot of other games because there's no choice in the matter. The overhead to add a counter gender is astronomical because clothes aren't fluid materials like in modern games. They legitimately have to adjust over 10,000 armor pieces for both male and female to support it. That's 6 years of updates to go back and fix.

    Yoshi P. stated that it's not a high priority right now because they have to focus on other parts of the expansion. I can imagine it costing an enormous amount of money to do. He also stated that having the other gender to be something they are considering for the future once they have streamlined development after shadowbringer's release.

    They will not release male viera for quite some time if ever, so you're only punishing yourself for this because you're one of the few who's complaining. But who am I kidding? They will not notice a dozen or so users who are genuinely upset to the point of unsubscribing because WoW refugees are taking their spot very quickly.

    Please consider the fact that development costs are really high when adding new races, and remember that it is something new that people have a choice to use and it's not the end of the world if they don't add opposite genders. People are saying "they shouldn't have added a new race if they gender locked it" but then they wouldn't have added a new race for the majority who want to play as a female Viera? That's punishing a wide majority of players.

    It's only a cosmetic, nothing more, nothing less. I'd rather they spend 3 months worth of budget on adding a lot of new content than seeing them waste time on the opposite gender to appease the <0.00001%
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    Quote Originally Posted by Eriane_Elis View Post
    OP, you're absolutely childish. Don't you know how unbelievably hard it is to add anything to this game is especially new races? Be thankful there are two new races added to the game, gender locking isn't that big of a deal considering you probably play the opposite gender in a lot of other games because there's no choice in the matter. The overhead to add a counter gender is astronomical because clothes aren't fluid materials like in modern games. They legitimately have to adjust over 10,000 armor pieces for both male and female to support it. That's 6 years of updates to go back and fix.

    Yoshi P. stated that it's not a high priority right now because they have to focus on other parts of the expansion. I can imagine it costing an enormous amount of money to do. He also stated that having the other gender to be something they are considering for the future once they have streamlined development after shadowbringer's release.

    They will not release male viera for quite some time if ever, so you're only punishing yourself for this because you're one of the few who's complaining. But who am I kidding? They will not notice a dozen or so users who are genuinely upset to the point of unsubscribing because WoW refugees are taking their spot very quickly.

    Please consider the fact that development costs are really high when adding new races, and remember that it is something new that people have a choice to use and it's not the end of the world if they don't add opposite genders. People are saying "they shouldn't have added a new race if they gender locked it" but then they wouldn't have added a new race for the majority who want to play as a female Viera? That's punishing a wide majority of players.

    It's only a cosmetic, nothing more, nothing less. I'd rather they spend 3 months worth of budget on adding a lot of new content than seeing them waste time on the opposite gender to appease the <0.00001%
    Its posts like this that frustrate me to no end, regardless of the topic. You make sweeping generalizations and assumptions without any data to back up the claims you are making. How do you know the proportion of players unhappy about gender locked races is a small vocal minority? Quiet frankly there is no way for you, or anyone else, to know for certain. Are people overreacting? That is a matter of opinion. And if these forums any indication, everyone has an opinion they think is the right opinion to have.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Eriane_Elis View Post
    It's only a cosmetic, nothing more, nothing less.
    I have to highly disagree with that Part.
    Saying that something is "only a cosmetic, nothing more, nothing less" is from my View saying that "Design/Look does not really matter.".

    Going from that, we could ask,
    "Why is there even a Character Creator in the Game if it is just cosmetics and instead gave us more Dungeons?,
    "Why are there Websites and Facebook Groups of 14 Players, showing Glamour combinations for Characters?",
    "Why do Players spend time in this Game for the looks of their Character if it is just cosmetics?".
    Why does 14 Glamour even exist if it is just cosmetics?

    Why if it is just cosmetics are Players spending Money for the Glamour and Mounts from the Mog Store.
    The Bike and the fat Catand many others are just cosmetics to have a different Chocobo.
    Why do we even have more than just basic male Humans if it is just cosmetics to make the Character look nicer for a Player?

    Just imagine every single Character in this Game would look like Fungus the Bogeyman.
    98% of the Players would absolutly hate it and the the other 2% would feel strangely amused everytime they see an NPC and find it amazing.
    (count me in for the 2% here. )

    Quote Originally Posted by Eriane_Elis View Post
    Be thankful there are two new races added to the game.
    Here is the question in my head "Why should somebody be thankful for something he/she did not wish for?".
    This is like telling every Player who hoped for a Healer to be thankful for another DPS Job.
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    Last edited by Imuka; 03-28-2019 at 10:36 AM.

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    I will admit that I am okay with matriarchal glamazon bunnies, but I can understand why people would be upset by the lack of male Viera, too. It feels like this entire expansion needs to bake a little longer as opposed to being released so soon.
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    Last edited by rachcouture; 03-28-2019 at 04:41 AM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by rachcouture View Post
    I will admit that I am okay with matriarchal glamazon bunnies, but I can understand why people would be upset by the lack of male Viera, too. It feels like this entire expansion needs to bake a little longer as opposed to being released so soon.
    This is something that makes MMOs slowly kill themself over time.
    Burning Crusade was a great Addon, because it was made, when Blizzard felt like it was the right moment. Wotlk had some kind of puffer because they took their time for BC and so it could also be baked till the end.
    Now they force an Addon out the door every two Years and we see how that worked out since the Release of Cata.
    And 14 is sadly no exception to this Problem.

    Going from the Players I know who left the Game since the SB release I am not sure, if I should call SB our Cata or if ShB will be it.
    I know a lot of Players who see ShB as the make or break Point of the whole Game. And the Start of ShB was pretty rough till now.

    Quote Originally Posted by Wynn_Storm View Post
    I think Shadowbringer's launch will have a massive sub count.
    The same goes for every WoW Addon and 60 days later a lot of the Player are gone till the new Addon appears.
    But you can't develop a MMO if a large Part of your Playerbase comes back for 60 days every 2 Years.
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    Last edited by Imuka; 03-28-2019 at 07:47 AM.

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    Toxic SJWs everywhere. Why wont you leave sane people alove?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Fangorn View Post
    Toxic SJWs everywhere. Why wont you leave sane people alove?
    Buzzwords that were always irrelevant and say more about the accuser than the accused have never made a compelling argument.
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    I honestly think that the majority of the people that say they are unsubbing, won't actually unsub.

    I think Shadowbringer's launch will have a massive sub count.

    WoW is slowly killing itself, and they made FF14 free for a lot of people with Twitch prime. I even convinced some of my WoW guildies to play this game for a bit, and a few of them are tempted to play full on.

    The tears will eventually stop, and people will realize its really not that bad.
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    Last edited by Wynn_Storm; 03-28-2019 at 06:50 AM.

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    Any of those unsubbing have a large house in Lavender Beds? I'm thinking of buying one.
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    USGamer recently posted a new Yoshi-P interview:

    https://www.usgamer.net/articles/fin...r-trust-system

    USG: As well as new jobs to build into, the Viera race was announced. With the male-only Hrothgar announced at the recent Fan Fest as a counter to the female-only Viera, how has the early reception been and what can you expect from these new introductions?

    NY: With the announcement made only two days ago, we're still going through all of the feedback from players. And the community team is analysing all the feedback so we can see what we're given, so we can't really give a comment on it right now. Before we made the decision to announce the Hrothgar, we understood that some people might have some opinions on the lack of counterparts for both races.

    When we say 'feedback', that's just one word, but what we want is to hear all of the differing opinions-if they're upset about the lack of male Viera, or disappointed about that there's no female Hrothgar. First, we need to investigate each sort of concern, as well as the amount and 'temperature' of player concerns. If we don't analyse it, we won't be able to come up with the right answer.
    So sounds like he wants to hear the negative opinions, even from the ones willing to unsubscribe.
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