Male Viera... Unsubbing for now.

[Imuka]

Veteran players who stay, and potential new players are vastly more important. The ones who can come and go without thinking twice about it, not so much.[/I]".

No, not really. There is one group of Players who are important for them: "People who have not played the Game till now.".
Does it feel like their big focus are the Players they have in the Game at the moment? Not really from my View.
Over the Years, they have canceled every Fan Gathering around conventions. They reduced the Numbers of T Shirts for Players on the Conventions. It is pretty unlikely that a Person who never played it, beats a Primal playing the Game for the forst time.
But they throw more stuff around to get new Players into the Game.

And this whole thing is a vicious circle running into a pit of fire.
They strech for new Players, while losing old and this costs them Money, so they need so spend more of the money for more advertisement to attract new Players.
The budget missing makes is harder to make new things for the Game, which makes old Players leave.
This forces them to strech even more with even more Advertisement for the Game, to find new Players and again, this Budget is missing for the Game and makes again old Players leave...which brings them back to streching even more and more and more and more...like a vicious circle.


And at the moment, they feel like this works great, but it only works, because so many people leave WoW and jump onto the other AAA Publisher MMO.

And this is the Devil behind Companies and Investors thinking, that there is an limitless growth in this Industry and a Game/Company needs to grow every Year.
But the Number of humans on this Planet is not limitless and the Number of people who play games is not limitless and the same goes for Money.
And this is one of the reasons, why gaming is killing itself today. If you have all the money, there is no more Money to make.
But this is a different topic. ^^

[Odstarva]

Myah'a Tabbs...

I'll be checking your level, once the 1st of July hits. Will you really unsub? I doubt it.

[SinSiew79]

I'm unsubbing until male Viera are added, sorry devs. I love the game, but I have been hoping for this for a really long time (well before Viera were confirmed or hinted at coming to the game). I understand this is probably a little childish, but I'm not worried about appearing that way.

I'm happy the Ronso crowd got their race, but I'm very disappointed we've yet again taken the route of "men big manly" and "women sleek sexy". Games with genderlocking in races and classes NEVER keep my attention. Black Desert looks great, for example, but my favorite classes are female only so I just can't bring myself to play it.

Unfortunately, between BLU, no male Viera, and (so far) no healer... I'm just really let down.

Please consider bringing us male Viera very soon.

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Have a nice day

[Clarissa_Jiffrey]

I'm unsubbing until male Viera are added, sorry devs. I love the game, but I have been hoping for this for a really long time (well before Viera were confirmed or hinted at coming to the game). I understand this is probably a little childish, but I'm not worried about appearing that way.

I'm happy the Ronso crowd got their race, but I'm very disappointed we've yet again taken the route of "men big manly" and "women sleek sexy". Games with genderlocking in races and classes NEVER keep my attention. Black Desert looks great, for example, but my favorite classes are female only so I just can't bring myself to play it.

Unfortunately, between BLU, no male Viera, and (so far) no healer... I'm just really let down.

Please consider bringing us male Viera very soon.

Well, is this really a reason to throw a tantrum? Other players are concerned about the gravitas of balance and jobs changes, and how the game could change at a large scale and you want to unsub for your broken expectations? Do you really want to behave like the little kid, who wanted a red toy car at christmas and instead got the blue one - and then stops talking to their parents until it gets the red car?

Is "no male viera now" really worth it to throw away all the good things from the past and all what's to come? We can be happy that we even got viera at all, from all what I know. And look, I understand you are disapointed, but threatening the devs with unsub, over this? money wise they would only feel an impact over it if A LOT of their player base would think alike and behave like you do now.

And well, even if there were no valid technical limitations to why SQEX decided how they did, would you have been happy? no - because player A wants the hulk bunny, player B the androgynous leeth bunny, plyer C the tiny male lala-esque bunny, player D wants feral bunny and player E want the three-headed-guard-dog-bunny-of-tge-easter-bunny-from-hell.

It is sad, that you want to depart from a game with such a rich history and cherished memories because you did not got this one wish granted, but then just go and stop fueling the echo-chamber - fare thee well until the time male Viera are added (or not).

*sigh* look, in short: there are better ways to go about this, and I usually avoid forums for exactly this messy reason here. feeling offended is okay, but do not if you act entitled about it. Instead try to establish a dilog with the devs and work with them. Just stop playing the hyper offended-and-entitled card - in the long run, it just damages your fun, the fun of others and in the end your rep in the eyes of others.

Kind regards,
Rissa

[BillyKaplan]

Well, is this really a reason to throw a tantrum?

1. We all pay for the base game, every expansion, and a monthly sub. If we want to stop paying for whatever reason it is well within our right.
2. People jump the gun to assume that this is the only reason why many people unsub. Now, again, see #1. But the people to whom this was the straw that broke the camel's back aren't exactly going to start listing the things that came prior that made them draw the line at the genderlocking.

Do you really want to behave like the little kid, who wanted a red toy car at christmas and instead got the blue one - and then stops talking to their parents until it gets the red car?

Metaphor is broken given we are the ones paying for it.

money wise they would only feel an impact over it if A LOT of their player base would think alike and behave like you do now.

Seems like there's a trend forming regarding this, yes. Also, a lot of people who do unsub won't come to the forums and tell the devs they're doing so - in part because of people like you who come in here to mock them. They'll just unsub quietly and that would be that.

[Kallera]

Well, is this really a reason to throw a tantrum? Other players are concerned about the gravitas of balance and jobs changes, and how the game could change at a large scale and you want to unsub for your broken expectations? Do you really want to behave like the little kid, who wanted a red toy car at christmas and instead got the blue one - and then stops talking to their parents until it gets the red car?

Is "no male viera now" really worth it to throw away all the good things from the past and all what's to come? We can be happy that we even got viera at all, from all what I know. And look, I understand you are disapointed, but threatening the devs with unsub, over this? money wise they would only feel an impact over it if A LOT of their player base would think alike and behave like you do now.

And well, even if there were no valid technical limitations to why SQEX decided how they did, would you have been happy? no - because player A wants the hulk bunny, player B the androgynous leeth bunny, plyer C the tiny male lala-esque bunny, player D wants feral bunny and player E want the three-headed-guard-dog-bunny-of-tge-easter-bunny-from-hell.

It is sad, that you want to depart from a game with such a rich history and cherished memories because you did not got this one wish granted, but then just go and stop fueling the echo-chamber - fare thee well until the time male Viera are added (or not).

*sigh* look, in short: there are better ways to go about this, and I usually avoid forums for exactly this messy reason here. feeling offended is okay, but do not if you act entitled about it. Instead try to establish a dilog with the devs and work with them. Just stop playing the hyper offended-and-entitled card - in the long run, it just damages your fun, the fun of others and in the end your rep in the eyes of others.

Kind regards,
Rissa

Its not really a tantrum at all, and in the post they even state that there are multiple decisions that they are not happy with.


In addition, it actually makes sense to describe in further detail why you are leaving since the questionaire they give you when unsubbing only has limited, sterile, radio options and after a few weeks, you are unable to post at all in the forums. Which leaves the reddit, and that's not the same as the official forums(never even heard of any SE dev responding to reddit conversations.)

[Pixelburst]

OP throwing a tantrum.

[Mizunoko]

Why not donate your subs to those poor WoW players who have ACTUAL game breaking issues with the game they have devoted their lives to. I am sure they would be more than grateful to play ffxiv, a game with no serious issues in comparison to most other mmo's out there these days, that is why ffxiv is getting bigger and more popular as it moves forward. Quitting over cosmetics.............i mean if your going to do something like that then you would have stopped playing over any other stupid reason at some point or another anyway. You were never a real fan/player/supporter if this is how you were going to act over something like this in the first place . Don't let the door hit you on the way out.

Whether you and others alike leave or not, the truth of the matter is this new expac will be a big success and probably have record high subs. Our game has been growing consistently over the years and it doesn't look like it will stop any time soon. My advice to you if you leave is find a game being run by devs that somehow are able to pander to every single minority in terms of content because that would be the miracle you need to satisfy yourself. Reality check, SE can't make every single player happy, no company can. What your claiming to look for doesn't exist and with that attitude you will never be happy.

[Souljacker]

I am sure they would be more than grateful to play ffxiv, a game with no serious issues.

No serious issues, huh? That's a pretty bold statement there.

[Atreyu]

I want to see male Viera and female Hrothgar as well, but I don't think it's worth throwing the baby out with the bath water over it.
If you've made up your mind, then that's your choice and I wish you well, but I would rather stay and play with my new toys as I give feedback rather than ragequit because I'm not being catered to *yet*.